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Post by portrush on Nov 14, 2009 19:29:45 GMT -5
A little more decorum and respect could be used here, John. I mean really.You don't have to agree with it...but you do have to follow the rules. Dial it down a notch. pr
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 15, 2009 13:13:00 GMT -5
By: paltalk-updater_ 15 Nov 2009, 11:38 AM EST Rating: Msg. 885094 of 885108
Jump to msg. # my prediction - bashers will b posting on christmas day
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Post by varnson on Nov 15, 2009 16:01:34 GMT -5
Just because people question the obvious does not mean they are bashers, they just look at what is factual and what is simply rumor and make their decisions on critical info not ineuendo.
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 15, 2009 21:56:28 GMT -5
By: aladin99 13 Nov 2009, 09:59 PM EST Rating: Msg. 884696 of 885199 Jump to msg. # mp3 - today!!!!!!!!! www.zshare.net/audio/68436114e5b5f204/ By: joesixpack333 15 Nov 2009, 05:36 PM EST Rating: Msg. 885140 of 885199 (Reply to 884696 by aladin99) Jump to msg. # aladin... interesting stuff.. do you know the dates for gus' ultimatum.. he said 30 days.. but starting/ending on what date..
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 16, 2009 18:04:33 GMT -5
ty bikinipro.... Carry over:
gusjarvis King of Diamonds Re: hope everyone has a great weekend « Reply #16 Today at 2:42pm »
I am all for more than one attack, it will be more effective.
I just want those watching to know that they can help, and just getting our word out is helping Al as well. But just to get the word out in a coordinated effort in the next two weeks.
I would love to actually see Al's work blitz by the same people that work on our stuff. I will blitz Al's work immediately everywhere I blitz mine. There doesn't have to be any division, there one goal here.
I don't want to go to court at all, and you know me, I say too much and go to fast, but that is who I am.
I go too fast for omega and some of his circle, but that is not mine, we are opposites in some ways but after the same goal and working together.
We have come a long way in a very short time in cmkx days, we need the help getting the word out. And anyone who has different opinions is welcome in our coalition, in fact, I encourage that.
But my way is fast and will have mistakes along the way, but is for effect, and that effect is being felt already, and more are watching the boards and excited at least something is being done, even if it is not exactly how they would do it.
I realize this is dangerous as well and some don't want to take that risk, and that is fine, but some will have to to go to the next level. We have at least one ready to file the american suit when ready, it will take a little longer than I thought, but that is good, it will make those that like more professional way of going and taking more time people happy.
I will go faster than that, and you will see my next action very very soon. I know some won't like that pace but I believe we need it now that there is traction. We have both sides in the coalition and everyone in between, and that is good. I am not a lawyer and you actually don't have to be to go to court, especially in Canada, we have a move we thought of to get around venue change, you will see it soon.
We have to think around their moves ahead of time and try and side step them as we don't have the time or the money to fight this out to the bitter end. We need effect now and word to spread as fast as possible in a coordinated effort to make what we are doing actually makes a difference.
I hope all that are watching this join us, even if you don't like some of the moves we make, lord knows omega likely cringed a few times when I put things out, but he still works with me. The effort and work we put together has already made traction and already is being noticed.
As a group we can easily make this story get out there, easily. It will take those that have sat and watched to join in and join your state or provincial group that will form. It means taking the information, whatever that is even if it isn't our groups, and do something with it. Take your own work and demand answers and demand the media tell this story. The lawsuit, although hastily put together, was for an reason. This is now a story, a true story, even a human interest story, even if I did the case wrong.
And it has only started, please help in any way in which you think will help, but do something in the next couple weeks. Get every person you got into this, I have, and ask them to help. All my friends jumped at it after they read the work we put together.
We can be the most powerful shareholders group ever, but you have to do something.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 16, 2009 18:05:28 GMT -5
ty bikinipro haney Senior Diamond MinerIt looks like the Keystone Pipeline will be ready to transport oil by the end of this year. I wonder if there is any connection with the oil that (I heard) Urban found in that area? Hmmm, finished by the end of 2009. Perhaps just in time for an IPO and then trading in early 2010.... JMHO How do you spell "CIM"... www.transcanada.com/keystone/keystone_pipeline.htmlRicky
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 16, 2009 18:06:29 GMT -5
ty bikinipro... gusjarvis King of Diamonds ***** we are about to make our next moves
« Thread Started Today at 2:44pm »
we are about to subpoena through foia the following, if you have ideas of what you want us to ask for feel free to give us suggestions. We are going to focus primarily at the beginning of obtaining the exact naked shorts of tdwaterhouse/ameritrade Canadian and American records, etrade canada and the united states, nevwest now owned by penson, and others
we want to know the exact total of shares they each sold in canada and in the united states in particular.
we are going to ask for the phone records of the sec where they ok'd the trades of john edwards when he brought in fraudulent certs.
we are going to ask for the victim notification list and the exact amount of shares sold by each institution, not per individual, and they can even black out the personal information for now. But it will be handed in to the court in the future to identify the potential plaintiffs in these cases that are coming.
the og and current management should have not trouble handing over their work to the shareholders coalition. I expect the sec to give us more trouble, but will just mail a registered letter to the og and ask for the records, they should hand over anything we ask for immediately I expect as they have nothing to hide. If the og doesn't agree to just mail us the information we will do what it takes to get that information.
if there is any real questions you want asked let me know as they have a lot of explaining to do to the shareholders. If there are certain records you want me to ask for let me know.
thanks, and to all that did donate the money whether a bit or a lot, it all means the world to us. To all the have put time into this, I can't thank you enough.
we will move forward on several different front at the same time, and I am running by the letter to the court by a good lawyer in the states who is giving free advice right now, so I will let the group know immediately what he says to me, it will impact any cases in the states that go forward as it is asking for relief from filing the administrative claim to the sec before you can sue them.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 16, 2009 18:08:40 GMT -5
thanks Gus & bikinipro **This post from a Great ‘Listener’**was a little over 1 year ago. Read it a few times over. You will appreciate what you own more and more. The Attorny’s he speaks of are who Urban hired. Not Bill Frizzel. In My Opinion Bill and Kevin are there to keep us occupied with ‘smoke and Mirrors’ and when they are ready to pay us all of their projects will disappear. this post by this GR8 Listener, You will Love it. millionaires.proboards86.com/inde....ead;=1194755784************************************************************ I have to agree that it is time for the company to pay shareholders a dividend even if it’s token to acknowledge that the company is viable and willing to apply pressure on the short. I look back when Kevin West was on the CMKM Taskforce and he told me that the company would be putting out a PR on a day when I was talking with him. The attorney’s told Urban that the PR would be out that day and it never happened. I asked Kevin what happened and he told me that Urban was even surprised it didn’t come out. He explained his frustration with the lack of communication from the company to shareholders. He told me that the attorney’s are running the show and not even Urban can decide when a PR is issued. Basically the attorneys have a task at hand and they could care less what the shareholders think because they have a job to do and that is all that matters, their success ultimately is our success. They refuse to show any part of their hand for whatever it is they are working on. The shareholders are locked in and basically everyone must trust the team whether they like it or not. I find it rather ironic that Kevin who is a shareholder is now the interim CEO and by position must have a better insight as to what is going on. Kevin believes in communication, he really does. Interestingly enough now that he is on the inside, he is not allowed to communicate because of the attorneys. He might not like it, but he understands why. Kevin is a shareholder and believe me, if he is okay with it, so am I. Kevin stated to me while on the CMKM Taskforce that CMKM had substantial assets. He confirmed to me that there was no way he would be spending all of his time and effort if the only asset was Entourage. The SEC basically warned the CMKM Taskforce that if they tried to tell everyone to pull their stock certificates that the SEC would try to charge them with market manipulation. The attorney’s in turn created a transaction which was clever enough to force a stock certificate pull and that is really the only reason why the Entourage deal was done. Not because it was the “only” asset, there are other assets but because it was the only way to get a stock certificate pull underway. Key point here, I asked Kevin if interpleader was something that was thought of after the stock certificate pull was pretty much near completion. Kevin made it very clear to me that interpleader was the goal from day 1. Basically Robert Maheu told everyone in a meeting that the goal of the CMKM Taskforce was to identify and cert as many CMKM shareholders as much and accurately as possible. The goal was to provide him with a list that he could take to interpleader. Basically different attorneys would be used for different tasks depending on where we were in the overall plan. It was my understanding that despite the PR that Stocklein and Maheu were no longer part of the CMKM Taskforce that they were still consulting with the company. Kevin made it very clear to me that he was extremely confident in what the company was doing because as far as they were concerned they were successful in certing enough shareholders to move forward with interpleader. We knew of the holdouts and that would be addressed through interpleader if they wouldn’t cooperate. The fact that interpleader is not filed could be an indication that we are getting some cooperation. Kevin and I, identified the issue of broker/dealers hiding stock certificates from the CMKM Taskforce. It was obvious to me that the company had some sort of open ended settlement. The reason being that why would the attorneys need to keep their own set of data on shareholders when the transfer agent had the data. Faxing in our stock certificates to the law firm for verification made no sense to me if we are already verified by the mere issuance of our stock certificates with the transfer agent. Also why would the brokerage firms who did order stock certificates and had the shares hide them from the CMKM Taskforce. What would be the purpose of hiding them in their vaults unless by giving them to shareholders and in turn the shareholders faxing them into the law firm created a liability for them. The fact that the DTCC cleared out all of their CMKM was also very interesting. Basically CMKM in the process of distributing Entourage and any other assets would not be using the DTCC. Why would that be? I understand that CMKM is revoked and is a private company and should not use the DTCC, so then brokerage intermediaries have no reason to be holding electronic shares and should have issued certs to their clients. I suspect that if CMKM has settled with the DTCC it could not give the Entourage and any other assets, including settlements, back to the DTCC to distribute. That is why everyone had to fax in to the law firm because ultimately distribution would have to be done through them and not the DTCC. Profile My purpose here is to try and give a better insight as to where we were and where this is going. It’s obviously going forward. I myself get very impatient at times, however when I put it in perspective, there is progress. The cert pull has identified what brokerage firms are naked short, which is critical if this has to be taken into the courts. Nevwest has been busted along with Edwards for their part in all of this. The fact that Nevwest sold 259 billion shares of stock clearly explains why CMKM issues more and more shares to make sure the company retained control with all these additional shares in the market. Shareholders should be intrigued with the fact that these restricted shares were recommended by Frizzell to Stocklein to be null and void for violating the company’s restricted stock rules and therefore if done would not only lower the number of shares issued and outstanding, but also create a naked short. If these shares are counted currently in the Taskforce count and now are to become null and void, what is the true count. Also if the company had shares in the treasury that were sitting there to offset a hostile takeover, how many of those shares can be retired now that the threat has been addressed. If 259 billion shares were wrongfully issued, and the company issued the same amount to the CMKM treasury to offest it, what if 518 billion shares are eliminated or retired. Then if there is hardly any float and the naked electronic shares is very high, this could skyrocket the book value of our shares. The naked short, if held by the company, could give us a multiple of our current value. Understand that if the company issues a dividend it means outright “war” and there is no more room for negotiations for those who are short. A dividend is a punch made directly in their face. It is the last resort option, we would like a “settlement” and a peaceful interpleader that pays us nicely. A settlement is better than a dividend, but I must agree with shareholders as to they have had a enough time. It’s time to inflict some serious pain if they can’t make good on what they sold to the public. Where the line is drawn, only the attorney’s know. I am confident in what I know, and therefore I am more intrigued with how this will play out rather than when am I getting paid. I’m more in the mode of how much will I be paid rather than when will I get paid. Very key points that need to be known this late in the game. 1. do we have assets? 2. is there a naked short? 3. does the company own the naked short? Well according to the recent conference call Kevin addressed my questions. 1. He said the Emerson Koch he recently met with and felt comfortable with what is has done. Basically Emerson in my opinion verifies the assets and well as my previous conversation with Kevin that CMKM has substantial assets. 2. Kevin outright said there is a naked short and he identified them with me who they were. Etrade, Ameritrade and TD Waterhouse. I also verified through a phone call to the transfer agent that these firms were playing games with their clients that they ordered certs and they were quote “lost” when in fact they never placed an order with the TA for a cert. 3. Most importantly Kevin said on the conference call that the naked short could give huge valuation to shareholders. The only way that could give bonafide shareholders valuation is if electronic shares are owned by CMKM. I have been silent for a long time because I am confident in where this is going. I’m not happy with the constant delays, but understand it is not the company creating the delays, it is the non cooperation of the brokerage firms. The attorneys are running the show, I am glad they are running the show. We are obviously close to getting a conclusion on this saga. I could care less if the whole market place gets cleaned up, all I care about is us getting paid. I bought CMKM to make money not clean up the marketplace. It is not CMKM’s responsibility to clean up the marketplace. It is the government that is responsible. If they have to pay us to shut up, I’ll take it. Other companies and their shareholders need to step up and determine their own destiny. It is the sad reality of the situation, but let’s be serious, if CMKM locked in the shorts and it get’s us paid that is all that matters to me. Call it selfish, I don’t care, I’ve been in this long enough and all I want is the payoff. The Listener
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 16, 2009 18:17:03 GMT -5
By: pontiyak 13 Nov 2009, 05:54 PM EST Rating: Msg. 39544 of 39547 Jump to msg. # Nice to see the "Legal Notice" NOW includes the DTCC..... I wonder where they got that idea ?.... Hmmmmm Have at it boys, I will support your efforts... as long as it does not interfer with any positive advancements or legal efforts, past/present & future, undertaken by the current management. IMHO, they have done more to bring real value back into CMKM, since they took office, than any previous management. yak
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 16, 2009 18:25:39 GMT -5
By: sneakerbabe10 16 Nov 2009, 08:31 AM EST Rating: Msg. 885235 of 885431
Jump to msg. # paltalk-updater_, Ummm Hmmm that's right, seems the real Bashers here are any of you who do NOT support Bill Frizzell, Kevin West & the BOD who are trying to move the company forward....maybe it's time to expose the agenda's of those who are working against the company......many may be shocked at who they are calling friends.
By: jboydwv 16 Nov 2009, 08:55 AM EST Rating: Msg. 885236 of 885431 (Reply to 885235 by sneakerbabe10)
Jump to msg. # sneakerbabe.... What " company" is Tyler trying to move forward?Where did they get valu and how much valu is there?When did those "FTD's " Tyler talks about come from?Who take a total scam and spends thier life on it?Who takes a never ending checkbook and uses it on a total scam? NOONE DOES.... you will never convince me Tyler had no clue what was there.... they knew.... does that make you go " Ummmmmm Hmmmmm".... now am I supposed to believe UC threw all that away so he could gamble and steal a few million? Seems I remember some PR's way back that talked about big valu and FTD's.......
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 16, 2009 18:42:31 GMT -5
By: aladin99 16 Nov 2009, 02:10 PM EST Rating: Msg. 885344 of 885431 Jump to msg. # Paltalk - 622B shares are separate from the real 703B? How we got here??? Do people appreciate that? By: paltalk-updater_ 16 Nov 2009, 02:17 PM EST Rating: Msg. 885350 of 885431 (Reply to 885344 by aladin99) Jump to msg. # aladin - yes - SEC lady confirmed 2 me that cert holders have registered shares
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 16, 2009 18:44:41 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 16 Nov 2009, 03:18 PM EST Rating: Msg. 885372 of 885431 (Reply to 885351 by paltalk-updater_)
Jump to msg. # paltalk-updater, thanks, and for all real shareholders
if you have dd where bill talks about proof of the naked short, if you have dd of bill talking about tdwaterhouse, etrade, ameritrade, or others, we welcome that dd.
If you were part of a conference call where the og talked about who was short we welcome that evidence.
thanks
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 16, 2009 18:45:40 GMT -5
By: sportsman93306 16 Nov 2009, 03:42 PM EST Rating: Msg. 885377 of 885431
Jump to msg. # GUS I ADMIRE YOUR EFFORT, BUT IT SEEMS THAT ITLACKS PROFESSIONALISM. I am unable to understand your direction. Do u want publicity?,or, you want legal action. Who is the attorney? Are u in touch with Bhollenegg/Al Hodges? Thanks SPORTSMAN
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 16, 2009 18:48:20 GMT -5
By: narvo0 16 Nov 2009, 04:31 PM EST Rating: Msg. 885402 of 885431 (Reply to 885387 by leowanta)
Jump to msg. # That is my point. Someone call him out and see if he is legit. So far I'd have to say that when nothing is said, then they are not legit. Otherwise they would of confirmed their legality on representing CMKX shareholders by stating the FEIN they have is fully legal. I beleive Frizzel/West last update stated they would be giving out an update is a short time. Now I think it's been a little way too long. What's up West. Anyone get Koch to say anything in print on his standing? TIA
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 16, 2009 18:49:06 GMT -5
By: e362 16 Nov 2009, 05:01 PM EST Rating: Msg. 885410 of 885431 (Reply to 885409 by leowanta)
Jump to msg. # Leo, if any of this posting record on this board is evidentry as you put it, you would have been locked up in the sanitarium a long time ago. You are sure working hard to discredit tyler and anyone that tries to do something to gain answers or move this along, why is that? You wouldn't be hiding behind an agenda now would you?
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