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Post by sunbeam777 on Sept 15, 2010 12:30:52 GMT -5
1328 EDT very_tired15: No ER, but he expects it by tomorrow... since they waited to the last minute to pay us, there is a potential change in strategy. AH may refile, even if we get ER, just to keep the pressure on them so that the stragglers are insured to get payment. So, even if we get the announcement, he will likely refile and then dismiss it after everyone is paid. very_tired15: I guess he wants to insure that they do not give notice - the lawsuit is dismissed - then they somehow interfere. very_tired15: But ER is still expected tomorrow... very_tired15: So long as we get ER the same day very_tired15: If we get ER, it will not likely have any meat. If we do not get ER, it will likely have far more meat to it
Crashigan: So now it is IF we get ER Allan? very_tired15: I just do the reporting Crash.. I do not control the situation.. . very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots.
very_tired15: Believe me, I was told repeatedly that we would not need to refile. If he decides to refile - even if ER comes - then there is a strategy to maintain pressure. It is a new strategy to me as of last night
very_tired15: He fully expects ER by tomorrow. However, since there are several people who have not registered with the TA and not followed this stock as of late, he will likely refile to insure that these people get paid, even if they are late to the game. He would be doing it to insure there is no interference.
very_tired15: I If we get paid, then refiling is irrelevant. If we do not get paid, then I agree. ChuckWheat: Allan...how much confidence does AH have of ER....is he certain, near certain, or just believing it will happen? very_tired15: Cuch.. he spoke to me with great certainty ghowiepharts: How much would they know to pay us if others arn't registered with the TA??? Earl is My Name: No one encouraged shareholders to register at the TA. No one made a big deal about it. In fact... they downplayed the importance of it. very_tired15: We will not have to wait for the non-registered or non-bonifieds to get notice spiderman1959: I think we may be reading more into the facts than that which exsists. JMO but maybe I am missing something very_tired15: He said nothing about that... he just said to insure that there is no further interfertence very_tired15: Perhaps, here is the fear.. and this is my opinion.. what if ER comes, he dismisses the case tand then before peopel can get paid, someone interferes? The lawsuit will insure that such actions can not happen.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Sept 15, 2010 12:36:01 GMT -5
1328 EDT very_tired15: No ER, but he expects it by tomorrow... since they waited to the last minute to pay us, there is a potential change in strategy. AH may refile, even if we get ER, just to keep the pressure on them so that the stragglers are insured to get payment. So, even if we get the announcement, he will likely refile and then dismiss it after everyone is paid. very_tired15: I guess he wants to insure that they do not give notice - the lawsuit is dismissed - then they somehow interfere. very_tired15: But ER is still expected tomorrow... very_tired15: So long as we get ER the same day very_tired15: If we get ER, it will not likely have any meat. If we do not get ER, it will likely have far more meat to it Crashigan: So now it is IF we get ER Allan? very_tired15: I just do the reporting Crash.. I do not control the situation.. . very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots. ??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 12:36:24 GMT -5
1328 EDT very_tired15: No ER, but he expects it by tomorrow... since they waited to the last minute to pay us, there is a potential change in strategy. AH may refile, even if we get ER, just to keep the pressure on them so that the stragglers are insured to get payment. So, even if we get the announcement, he will likely refile and then dismiss it after everyone is paid. very_tired15: I guess he wants to insure that they do not give notice - the lawsuit is dismissed - then they somehow interfere. very_tired15: But ER is still expected tomorrow... very_tired15: So long as we get ER the same day very_tired15: If we get ER, it will not likely have any meat. If we do not get ER, it will likely have far more meat to it Crashigan: So now it is IF we get ER Allan? very_tired15: I just do the reporting Crash.. I do not control the situation.. . very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots. Oh now that's funny. The ONLY scenario we did not conjure up may be the way it goes. What a crazy, crazy world!! Please let this be it, please. D4E
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 12:38:02 GMT -5
1328 EDT very_tired15: No ER, but he expects it by tomorrow... since they waited to the last minute to pay us, there is a potential change in strategy. AH may refile, even if we get ER, just to keep the pressure on them so that the stragglers are insured to get payment. So, even if we get the announcement, he will likely refile and then dismiss it after everyone is paid. very_tired15: I guess he wants to insure that they do not give notice - the lawsuit is dismissed - then they somehow interfere. very_tired15: But ER is still expected tomorrow... very_tired15: So long as we get ER the same day very_tired15: If we get ER, it will not likely have any meat. If we do not get ER, it will likely have far more meat to it Crashigan: So now it is IF we get ER Allan? very_tired15: I just do the reporting Crash.. I do not control the situation.. . very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots. ?? O'Boogie, Looks like you have some reading to do....hehe. Good luck. D4E
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Sept 15, 2010 12:46:23 GMT -5
1328 EDT very_tired15: No ER, but he expects it by tomorrow... since they waited to the last minute to pay us, there is a potential change in strategy. AH may refile, even if we get ER, just to keep the pressure on them so that the stragglers are insured to get payment. So, even if we get the announcement, he will likely refile and then dismiss it after everyone is paid. very_tired15: I guess he wants to insure that they do not give notice - the lawsuit is dismissed - then they somehow interfere. very_tired15: But ER is still expected tomorrow... very_tired15: So long as we get ER the same day very_tired15: If we get ER, it will not likely have any meat. If we do not get ER, it will likely have far more meat to it Crashigan: So now it is IF we get ER Allan? very_tired15: I just do the reporting Crash.. I do not control the situation.. . very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots. very_tired15: Believe me, I was told repeatedly that we would not need to refile. If he decides to refile - even if ER comes - then there is a strategy to maintain pressure. It is a new strategy to me as of last night very_tired15: He fully expects ER by tomorrow. However, since there are several people who have not registered with the TA and not followed this stock as of late, he will likely refile to insure that these people get paid, even if they are late to the game. He would be doing it to insure there is no interference. very_tired15: I If we get paid, then refiling is irrelevant. If we do not get paid, then I agree. Actually, folks... This makes more sense to me than a lot of stuff coming from these paltalk threads... He's saying that if ER comes tomorrow, he's not going to be trusting enough to let his 45-day window lapse, before money is actually in hand. That makes sense if you believe that there are still bad guys exerting any control. ...which addresses EXACTLY the point I've been thinking about over the last few days... Ed
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Post by sunbeam777 on Sept 15, 2010 12:47:48 GMT -5
RECAP
1328 EDT very_tired15: No ER, but he expects it by tomorrow... since they waited to the last minute to pay us, there is a potential change in strategy. AH may refile, even if we get ER, just to keep the pressure on them so that the stragglers are insured to get payment. So, even if we get the announcement, he will likely refile and then dismiss it after everyone is paid. very_tired15: I guess he wants to insure that they do not give notice - the lawsuit is dismissed - then they somehow interfere. very_tired15: But ER is still expected tomorrow... very_tired15: So long as we get ER the same day very_tired15: If we get ER, it will not likely have any meat. If we do not get ER, it will likely have far more meat to it
Crashigan: So now it is IF we get ER Allan? very_tired15: I just do the reporting Crash.. I do not control the situation.. . very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots.
very_tired15: Believe me, I was told repeatedly that we would not need to refile. If he decides to refile - even if ER comes - then there is a strategy to maintain pressure. It is a new strategy to me as of last night
very_tired15: He fully expects ER by tomorrow. However, since there are several people who have not registered with the TA and not followed this stock as of late, he will likely refile to insure that these people get paid, even if they are late to the game. He would be doing it to insure there is no interference.
very_tired15: I If we get paid, then refiling is irrelevant. If we do not get paid, then I agree. ChuckWheat: Allan...how much confidence does AH have of ER....is he certain, near certain, or just believing it will happen? very_tired15: Cuch.. he spoke to me with great certainty ghowiepharts: How much would they know to pay us if others arn't registered with the TA??? Earl is My Name: No one encouraged shareholders to register at the TA. No one made a big deal about it. In fact... they downplayed the importance of it. very_tired15: We will not have to wait for the non-registered or non-bonifieds to get notice spiderman1959: I think we may be reading more into the facts than that which exsists. JMO but maybe I am missing something very_tired15: He said nothing about that... he just said to insure that there is no further interfertence very_tired15: Perhaps, here is the fear.. and this is my opinion.. what if ER comes, he dismisses the case tand then before peopel can get paid, someone interferes? The lawsuit will insure that such actions can not happen. very_tired15: PLease do not let this information change your perspective about tomorrow.. just let it see... very_tired15: just let it play out for tomorrow...
very_tired15: Even if ER happens, not everyone will collect by tomorrow... to keep pressure that there will not be interference, that is the issue and the reason for refiling..
very_tired15: I fully expect news byt AH tomorrow
very_tired15: Beef,. he said he would do it no matter what... because they waited so long, he did not want to make us vulnerable and only dfep-endent on them keeping their word that there would be no interference..
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Post by Warren_Pease on Sept 15, 2010 12:48:40 GMT -5
Gee. What a shocking statement! Who woulda thunk it? Could those insisting payment was on its way and Al would never file been wrong or mistaken? very_tired15: ... since there are several people who have not registered with the TA and not followed this stock as of late, he will likely refile to insure that these people get paid... This is, hands-down, the most laughable apology for a broken story-line yet.
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Post by beavis on Sept 15, 2010 12:50:53 GMT -5
1328 EDT very_tired15: No ER, but he expects it by tomorrow... since they waited to the last minute to pay us, there is a potential change in strategy. AH may refile, even if we get ER, just to keep the pressure on them so that the stragglers are insured to get payment. So, even if we get the announcement, he will likely refile and then dismiss it after everyone is paid. very_tired15: I guess he wants to insure that they do not give notice - the lawsuit is dismissed - then they somehow interfere. very_tired15: But ER is still expected tomorrow... very_tired15: So long as we get ER the same day very_tired15: If we get ER, it will not likely have any meat. If we do not get ER, it will likely have far more meat to it Crashigan: So now it is IF we get ER Allan? very_tired15: I just do the reporting Crash.. I do not control the situation.. . very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots. very_tired15: Believe me, I was told repeatedly that we would not need to refile. If he decides to refile - even if ER comes - then there is a strategy to maintain pressure. It is a new strategy to me as of last night very_tired15: He fully expects ER by tomorrow. However, since there are several people who have not registered with the TA and not followed this stock as of late, he will likely refile to insure that these people get paid, even if they are late to the game. He would be doing it to insure there is no interference. very_tired15: I If we get paid, then refiling is irrelevant. If we do not get paid, then I agree. Ummmmmm.... "expects it"? So many times he has expected it, only to be hit with some BS excuse (or at least that's what got handed to us).... I am surprised he trusted them this time, putting it out there that there would be no-refile, "NO WAY" he would have to... imo. ... well, at least he "fully expects" it... I think all we want now is ER/official notice of payment and when... imo.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Sept 15, 2010 12:52:52 GMT -5
QUESTION HERE.......... Does this Very-Tired guy talk for AH..? I'm new to this stuff... TIA
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Post by scorpion on Sept 15, 2010 12:54:19 GMT -5
Question is.. If we get ER and he re-files anyway because of the dormant shareholders, will we have to wait until they wake them up, how much longer? How much longer
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Sept 15, 2010 12:54:25 GMT -5
Warren:
I think THIS the real point... at least it addresses MY main concern regarding timing:
very_tired15: Perhaps, here is the fear.. and this is my opinion.. what if ER comes, he dismisses the case tand then before peopel can get paid, someone interferes? The lawsuit will insure that such actions can not happen.
Semantically, I'm certain that you can tear it to shreds, but essentially, it's intnt seems to address the scenario of ER being provided, but then SOMETHING/SOMEONE ELSE interferes with distribution of funds and the 45-day window has elapsed. Ed
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Sept 15, 2010 12:56:35 GMT -5
John:
very-tired is one of the plaintiffs and an attorney by trade (Alan Treffery(sp?). Some (not me) consider his words gospel... but I'll consider whatever he says over loose-connons Sheila or Wyatt any day of the year...
Ed
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Post by sunbeam777 on Sept 15, 2010 12:57:44 GMT -5
ALLEN TREFFREY CONTD very_tired15: AH can dismiss a=fter he is 100% sure we all have access very_tired15: REmember, it is all about interest.... they were going to keep the money until the last possible date.. very_tired15: I am personally sorry for first delivering info that there is no need to refile.. and changing it.. I do not think I was used, but I believe the change is a genuine and well-thought out one gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right? very_tired15: Craig, he is going to refile to insure that the ER is real and that we all can be paid very_tired15: since they waited to the last kminute, they could falsely represent that ER is real, but then interfere.. then we would have let the lasuit go and had one of our big hammers taken away ground_fog: he had to have been prepared for this scenario..so why friggin insist no refile..thats my problem..oh well nobull1: if you turn over the evidence the judge see's it but he also has proof we got payed that would satisfy the demand for the release of the trusts and it over? very_tired15: I would agree... do you want to trust the powers that be to suddenly do what they say? Governments are notorious for breaking their words.. ask the American Indians, the Japanese Internment victims, Black Farmers, so man others... very_tired15: However, we NEED news of ER TOMORROW.. not Saturday, but TOMORROW
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Post by scorpion on Sept 15, 2010 12:58:17 GMT -5
here's another question.
Did they just think of this strategy last night?
WHy the heck until the last minute instead of last week...in order to keep the pressure on?
The fun continues.
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Sept 15, 2010 13:01:37 GMT -5
Just because we're hearing it today, doesn't mean that Hodges just thought of it for the first time.
I'm quite sure he didn't just start dreaming up contingency plans last night.
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