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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 26, 2007 15:32:44 GMT -5
mgl Mod Squad Re: Gossip Column 12/26/07 « Reply #1 on Today at 9:01am »
By: oil.ipo 26 Dec 2007, 08:44 AM EST Msg. 636944 of 636944 Jump to msg. # The timing of an Acca post is pointless IMHO. In reality; The timing of so many things currently ongoing are very positive for the shareholders. Actually, I am more focused on today than the potential of waiting longer for a larger return (true or not). That message "to wait" has been thrown out there Ad nauseam. The opposite is the message IMO. No more wait.
Would any of you ACCA followers really feel better if he were saying what he usually says and alluded to an imminent ROI. What is the point? He never delivers what "he promises". Take his message as Home Run IMHO. Bring it to your bank and get a car loan with it. (Acca style)...
Happy New Year (ACCA(:+$) "Your wait is finally over! Go get a new set of clubs bro!"~
Ignore the propaganda. It's worthless.
Oil
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 26, 2007 15:33:52 GMT -5
mgl Mod Squad Re: Gossip Column 12/26/07 « Reply #2 on Today at 1:14pm »
By: cage228 26 Dec 2007, 12:31 PM EST Msg. 636993 of 636995 Jump to msg. # Hopefully what we are seeing is the final conditioning of atmospheres even thru once powerful longs.Negative -negative -negative for the public,etc,etc.And make it appear that the powers that be did there jobs.Then Bang!! We Win!! And anyone down the line who has not followed this saga will then have to attend a class at Harvard for the true storey. RG - IBM - Etc were here for a reason.I will never believe (win or loose) they were here to intentionally scam bonafides.Nor involve themselfs with a scam.Cmkx had/has something powerful or they would have never wasted their time.Scam = we would not still be here today.But we ARE! Here for the plight of the shareholders. All MHO! GLTA-LONGS!!!
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)
- - - - - By: 07isback 26 Dec 2007, 12:33 PM EST Msg. 636994 of 636995 (This msg. is a reply to 636993 by cage228.) Jump to msg. # yep cage, you said !!!RG - IBM - Etc were here for a reason !!! the reason was pump and dump,
to bad urban didnt get the milage from maheu, that he got from glenn,, - - - - -
By: dame1971 26 Dec 2007, 01:09 PM EST Msg. 636995 of 636996 Jump to msg. # YOU THINK IBM WOULD BE INVOLDED IN A PUMP AND DUMP,AND PUT HIS NAME IN THE MUD,GET REAL.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 26, 2007 15:38:13 GMT -5
timontoo AdministratorPutting Rumor About Frizzell Law Firm to Rest « Thread Started on Today at 9:30am » Hey gang, Yesterday, in Paltalk, one UCROCKS did post a link in chrisl's 'CMKM Pro Tyler Texas' room that went to the state comptroller's website. Here it is: tinyurl.com/3cpwpsIt shows the Frizzell Law Firm as not being in good standing. I sent the link to Bill knowing full well there was probably a simple explanation. And guess what.... There was. It is NOT, I repeat, NOT part of the plam. Here is Bill's reply:
The Frizzell Law Firm has been operating as a sole proprietorship since 2000. There proved to be no tax benefits in being a professional corporation for a solo practice. Articles of dissolution were filed but apparently not picked up by the Comptroller. I am having my CPA to resend the articles of dissolution so the note is removed. Not in Good Standing has to do with corporate status not ability to practice law. I hope this ends any confusion on the matter. Thanks, t
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 26, 2007 15:58:25 GMT -5
By: phxgold 26 Dec 2007, 02:37 PM EST Msg. 637006 of 637039Jump to msg. # can someone help me out please? If IBM and Stoecklein were not involved in cmkm during the pump and dump stage (meaning 2004) why is it their company CEC industries which became advantage capital which is headed by ronald and donald stoecklein and the chairman of their bod is Robert Maheu or IBM as they say in some circles on this cmkm document under the certification heading? cmkmdiamondsinc.com/documents/g-gutierrez-personal-oct-2004-fiserv-acct.pdf By: gusjarvis 26 Dec 2007, 03:52 PM EST Msg. 637035 of 637039(This msg. is a reply to 637006 by phxgold.) Jump to msg. # phxgold just replace pump and dump with sting and yes they were fully involved, they put the operation together. By: gusjarvis 26 Dec 2007, 03:58 PM EST Msg. 637038 of 637040Jump to msg. # phxgold why did bill know all about most of this and still work with urban for years? it is not possible to say urban fooled you with hundreds of thousands of posts saying urban is scamming us is it, there can be no excuse that is viable given the information bill had to work with and the warnings he got to now say urban conned him, that is not acceptable in lawyer land is it. Why is bill and kevin not accountable for their work they did and all the og updates they gave their clients. You can't get every single thing wrong and still have credibility can you, you can't get conned by the very man you were warned about and still have credibility can you? we are just fine or bill did some of the worst work every recorded, but you and your friends know we are fine, sad you have to work so hard now to put out just a bit of the information to slant reality. Or if reality is what you say bill should be on the side of john edwards just for his inaction and criminally poor dd he did, but you know he did his homework
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 26, 2007 16:03:48 GMT -5
By: stervc 26 Dec 2007, 02:25 AM EST Msg. 345077 of 345094 (This msg. is a reply to 345066 by partymartypa2.) Jump to msg. # Partymartypa2's, with CMKX...
What happened? I think you probably have a better answer than I. Heck, I am still wondering what happened. If I had to sum it all up in one word, I would have to say... GREED!
There were many things that transpired with CMKX that neither you nor I could have prevented no matter how much we believed. CMKX is definitely proof that believing is not enough. We were definitely dumped on.
Who knows??? All is not lost, but the light has gotten much dimmer at the end of the tunnel a long time ago. Our hope currently resides with Bill and Kevin unless something manifest itself to prove otherwise. Also, unless something is released to prove otherwise, I was wrong with my thoughts on CMKX and its potential. We will have no choice except to move forward.
v/r Sterling
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 26, 2007 16:07:17 GMT -5
By: houstontex1110 26 Dec 2007, 11:42 AM EST Msg. 345086 of 345094 (This msg. is a reply to 345077 by stervc.) Jump to msg. # The central reason for our belief was their huge land package located in a diamond producing area. That belief was not some crazy position. That is a legitimate way to invest in mining stocks. Next, we believed Urban and the geologist about all those hundreds of drill sites brought to light by the ariel electromagnetic studies. And that proved to be a lie. The geologist lied. We believed a lie. Without these 2 items, I never would have bought shares. Believing a licensed geologist with 30 years experience is not the worst thing one can do inthe markets. Our main mistake was investing too heavily.
By: gusjarvis 26 Dec 2007, 02:18 PM EST Msg. 345091 of 345094 (This msg. is a reply to 345086 by houstontex1110.) Jump to msg. # actually houstontex the belief came from bill frizzell and the dd he did to make sure we were protected and all that we heard and read on the boards was true, that the hundred thousand posts saying urban was guilty back then was either true or not, that all his og updates were backed up with extensive dd. We had a lawyer protecting us from what they say happened now, but we had that lawyer way back when he could have made a difference if he did his job, and by the way he did his job very very well, we are fine!
what a sad ending they came up with and having to read this crap is sad for sure. Everything you just posted was dd'd by bill and in the end while the stock was still trading he said our claims were being maintained, we had the goods, and we proved the largest short ever, and if he was wrong about all that he is the one that is to blame
By: houstontex1110 26 Dec 2007, 03:12 PM EST Msg. 345092 of 345094 (This msg. is a reply to 345091 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gustarvis I sincerely believe we at one time had a huge ns, but most was covered once the sec became more involved with our case. True, my contact had direct links with Bill...he lives in Tyler and is quite wealthy, and lost about $400,000 in cmkx. This man spoke to Bill, evidently on a regular basis, and my contact spoke to this guy.
By: gusjarvis 26 Dec 2007, 03:47 PM EST Msg. 345093 of 345094 (This msg. is a reply to 345092 by houstontex1110.) Jump to msg. # an how do you think it was covered and where is the money for that, bill was on the taskforce so I am sure he knows exactly what you are talking about if you are right
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Post by falcman1 on Dec 26, 2007 16:18:33 GMT -5
what happened to sterling? from what i have seen we know nothing more than we did 4 years ago ,except already public docs. and how are we to move forward with nothing but an empty shell? sorry people there is a reason were here. this is not a cult following, but it is a worldwide phenomena. too many bashers, pumpers and questions. if it was a PandD we would know by now and every person including IBM, GLENN, ANDY, MELVIN, UC, FIRST GLOBAL etc. would all be behind bars. ..........end of story.....
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Post by JoeRockss on Dec 26, 2007 18:35:25 GMT -5
TheRealJBond Just a reminder « Thread Started on Dec 21, 2007, 7:08pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember these names: David Z. Chesnoff, Las Vegas, Nevada, and Gerald W. Griffin, New York, New York. (Former Cassavant attornies...)CMKM Diamonds was represented by David G. Liston, Hughes Hubbard & Reed, LLP. Also have not heard any reference to the following as of lately... According to their testimony: CMKM Diamonds owns one mine shaft in Ecuador, and Nevada Minerals is the operator of the mine. (Tr. 220-22, 237-38, 263-64.) U.S. Canadian Minerals owns a processing facility in Ecuador, which processes the ore that is extracted from CMKM Diamonds's mine. (Tr. 216-21, 236-37, 267-68, 271.) Under the terms of Nevada Minerals's contract with CMKM Diamonds, Nevada Minerals is entitled to twenty percent of the revenue that CMKM Diamonds collects. (Tr. 272-75.) CMKM Diamonds and U.S. Canadian Minerals are also engaged in a joint venture in Canada, which has not generated any revenues. (Tr. 240.) In two of the press releases, Casavant announced that CMKM Diamonds had retained the law firm of Edwards & Angell. (Div. Exs. 44, 45.) REMEMBER THIS REMIX by MELVIN cmkx.yazzi.com/audio/likedroppinabomb.htmTheRealJBond DIAMOND DIGGER Re: Just a reminder « Reply #1 on Dec 21, 2007, 7:15pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That link is from 2004 and is old Uncle Melvin at his prime years...Hehehe
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Post by johnjrambothe2nd on Dec 26, 2007 21:03:40 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 26 Dec 2007, 05:24 PM EST Msg. 637071 of 637148 (This msg. is a reply to 637007 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosencrantz I will not say all I know but I did not talk to bill I talked to john on the phone as I was trying to get some info from tdwaterhouse canada to give to them, and trying to get a feel for what we had here. One day I will tell ya what the short in tdwaterhouse canada was alone, it was not small and considering you aren't even allowed to short a stock under five dollars in canada it was even worse. I invested in this like everyone else, i took a gamble on this then added to my position as our lawyer said we were not just fine, but were handed on a silver plater the largest naked short and the goods that were being maintained, and being a trader I knew that was the best combination in history. The fact is they read the boards and knew every single thing we were reading. They read the boards and saw the hundreds of thousands of posts saying urban screwed us and we had no assets. They knew every post cdic, george, fishing, braindummy, canuck, and all the rest of their buddies put out (doesn't it seem weird to you that george was their boy yet they said urban was a godly man and the bashers would face god's wrath for this, then mark ends his book with braindummies help, pretty condescending even if braindummy really is on ourside hey and if not what azzzzzholes). They knew exactly what was up with the shareholders surrendered list that lildummy put out, they knew what was up with sggm, they knew what was up with john edwards, they knew we had the goods and that they were being maintained and exactly what those goods were, they knew bob said don got us to reporting status expeditiously and must have dd'd it, they knew bob was around before he was announced and was at the party, they knew how short this was and who did it and how it was covered, they knew what andy was saying and that the share raises were in granny sock drawer, they knew all about the sec/doj/fbi/secret service/irs/sec/homeland security/sandia/judicial committee/and other agency investigations that were going on, they knew everything back then. And yes I was told we had the goods and we had oil (and the only reason I post that is bill even said the same thing in an og update and said we had oil concessions), that the short was proven, and more. I will post everything I was every told by the end of jan if this charade continues, and many others know a lot more about what they were told but out of respect don't say anything as they know we are fine.[/size] Look it can't be more simple than this, bill told us we had PROVEN the largest naked short ever, great. Now following that bill did the cert pull, now the cert pull either proved what he said or it didn't, he didn't do this with a blind fold on. He went into the cert pull saying we proved it and then did the cert pull to prove it. If the cert pull didn't prove it he had the legal obligation to his clients to tell them we got screwed then, sorry guys I was lied to and since the evidence now says the share raises were just dumped to you I have no alternative but to freeze all assets and throw a restraining order over all of this, but he didn't he did the cert pull for what a year and carried on like he did what he said, he proved the largest naked short ever. Then a long quiet period where bill did nothing. We were all told urban may have to take the fall and we are here, ready to give the most damaging evidence ever collected at any moment if things don't go right for us and the overall fight. But the fight went our way, the changes happened, and jan. 1st basel II comes and you have to have a share to deliver happens, monumental changes in the way business is done, and that is exactly what john martin told me they were doing. THEY WERE CHANGING THE WAY BUSINESS IS DONE! Just reread the og updates, it is all their, all their intense dd they did and the information from that dd, and if their dd wasn't backed up with evidence and documentation then we know who to blame right. I just talked to a corporate lawyer recently and told him a little about this and how we actually had a shareholders lawyer who worked for us but won't show his clients his work, he couldn't believe it. I guess they thought the shareholders would just go alright go get em bill and forget that the main pumpers were actually them. We were told not to believe the rumors, well all the amazing og updates with the goods and the oil and the largest proven short and all the rest were suppose to be more than just board rumors, that was the information we as bill's clients were suppose to rely on, and I personally did and bought tens of millions of shares because of. When I talked to john on the phone I bought more shares and got my friends to buy more shares, why wouldn't I trust him, I assumed they did their dd. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=637071
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 26, 2007 22:48:33 GMT -5
ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=637002By: repeaterpete 26 Dec 2007, 02:14 PM EST Msg. 637002 of 637004 Jump to msg. # Hey Kevin West! You want to tell us again how money was not extracted when the cmkx stockholders requested delivery? Given the rampant debit balances in the accounts of the Participants... and given the DTC's procedure of paying for securites that aren't available on the market with their retained earnings, among other methods.. you still saying money was not extracted? Because I am calling you a liar based upon procedure and Frizzells "trillions" in the transcript. 4. What procedures would be followed by the Securities Settlement System at the DTC in case the debit position cannot be rectified (e.g., failure by a participant with a debit balance in a securities account or unavailability of the securities in the market) (a) application of loss-sharing provisions allocating the loss to participants? (b) Absorption of loss by the DTC? (c) Other? Please specify. DTC's response: The short position penalty would be available to cover the obligation of a failing Participant. In the extremely unlikely event that the short position penalty and the failing Participant's deposit to the Participant's Fund are not sufficient to cover any loss suffered by DTC, DTC's retained earingings as well as the Participant's Fund (involving loss sharing by Participants on a pro rata basis) would be available for such loss.~~~end ocdDiamond Finder and Miner Don't get hung up on dates and predictions. Re: Tellin it like the way it is.. « Reply #3 on Today at 3:10pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are only two scenarios playing around in my head. One is good and one is bad. I'm vey glad Maheu was involved because I can look at his background and think how good this will be one day. gusjarvisKing of Diamonds Re: Tellin it like the way it is.. « Reply #5 on Today at 5:01pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- actually there is only one scenerio ocd, and that is we were covered and the exuses they used to not deliver those certs to the people they counterfeited were never good enough: The most alarming problems are represented by those shareholders who have been requesting certs from their brokers since the company’s first announcement of a distribution seven months ago. Here is a sampling of excuses being given to shareholders as reasons for their inability to obtain a cert: “We had your cert, but it is now lost. It will take us another 6 to 8 weeks to obtain another one.” “This stock purchase was a book entry only and no certificate is available.” “Your stock was classified as a worthless security and is no longer in your account.” “Our clearing firm has not been able to deliver these certificates due to a backlog of requests at the transfer agency.” “I have been instructed we are no longer pulling certs for CMKM and there is nothing I can do. You need to contact the company.” “CMKM Diamonds has a “K” code next to it, indicating that it is being held in safekeeping for the client. The clearing agent has made the decision not to issue certs but rather fax a copy of the certs it holds to the transfer agent.” “Attached herewith is evidence of ownership of shares held electronically by XYZ clearing for ABC broker. ABC to confirm receipt of this proof of shares of CMKM and related companies are held with XYZ.” “In light of the lack of cooperation (by the transfer agent), your May 15th, 2006 deadline must be bogus and must be extended, and Entourage shares could of course still be sent to ABC for the benefit of XYZ.” “MNO said they had discussed with the Task Force the acceptability of the affidavit as proof of ownership in lieu of the certificate, and that it would be accepted.” No such conversation ever occurred with the Task Force members. “We ordered your certificate, and it has been lost. You must now fill out a loss certificate.” The transfer agent confirms that no certificate was ever issued. Each quoted statement above is taken verbatim from a shareholder’s letter or from a broker’s written response to a shareholder’s request for a cert. I could continue with pages and pages of documented incidences of these broker responses to the requests of the shareholders if such is necessary to establish the need for a full investigation. It is my understanding of various SEC rulings and other regulatory holdings that the true beneficial owners are the only people or entities that own the stock and the rights package associated with stock ownership. Securities intermediaries are simply as their name implies. They are intermediaries. In the case of this Entourage distribution, the brokers have no rights to receive the distribution absent any proprietary holdings. Since CMKM is no longer a publicly traded company, it is my understanding that the brokers have no ownership interest and certainly would have no rights to ownership of the Entourage stock. The Task Force has now received certs in the name of certain brokerage companies. Our investigation reveals a potentially huge naked short position in at least two of the very companies that have sent us certs. The certs sent to the Task Force by the brokers represent billions of shares of CMKM stock. It is not the intention of the company to distribute Entourage stock to securities intermediaries and clearing houses for them to distribute the stock at their discretion. It is clear from the Regulation SHO records in conjunction with other sources (ADP, the transfer agent and the DTCC) that huge fails to deliver in this stock currently exist. It would be a breach of the fiduciary duty of the company to distribute these assets to a broker in lieu of its true beneficial owner when there is evidence of known fails to deliver occurring at the same brokerage house. There was a time in the market place when shareholder’s rights at least co-existed with the rights of the broker/dealers. You have now been presented with evidence of shareholders who have demanded that their brokers issue certs for their holdings. Many shareholders have been flatly refused by their broker. This violates Nevada state law and the spirit, if not the letter, of federal regulatory law. I call on you to begin an investigation into this injustice. Sincerely, Bill Frizzell Member CMKM Task Force Shareholder Attorney BF/gn Cc: SEC-Leslie Hakala Sue Kelly (House Financial Sevices) Senator Shelby Senator Bennett Senator Hatch Senator Sarbanes Charles Moore-Securities Administrator-Nevada Senator Harry Reid Senator John Ensign Representative Shelly Berkley Representative Joe Gibbons Representative John Porter tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1198697001
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 27, 2007 0:53:13 GMT -5
By: houstontex1110 27 Dec 2007, 12:34 AM EST Msg. 345098 of 345098 (This msg. is a reply to 345093 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # I do not claim to be an expert in anything involving cmkx. If cmkx did not humble you, then nothing will. I think the market makers were buying in the market just before it was delisted. A lot of shareholders were dumping at that time, and even post delisting, many sold out as I did, and my buyers sold to someone. I know they did not hold onto the shares they were buying. I even heard the sec investigated their strange buys and sells.
Plus, once Bill made public that he had proven a nss position, I think quite a few mms decided it was time to run for the hill, and they bought back to cover. The money came from their very substantial bank accounts.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 27, 2007 11:00:07 GMT -5
phantum DIAMOND DIGGER IMO: Quick thought « Thread Started on Today at 7:27am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok you all know how some say CMKX was used as an example for punishing the naked shorters and bring and end to it all or something along those lines. Well what if CMKX was shorted so bad just so those who control the market can show us they really can do whatever they d*mn well please. millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1198758447john3339 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Squeeze gently ..........................but PAY BIG! Re: IMO: Quick thought « Reply #1 on Today at 7:40am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Humph...seems to be working so far. From what comes out from the tyler boys, the securities crooks don't much exist it seems. Did the naked shorters and market manipulators win in spite of the Jeffries letter? In spite of the proved 2+ trillion shares naked shorted? In spite of IBM, DS, RG, and UC's efforts? In spite of the DD from ABGG? In spite of the continuing investigations by the alphabet orgs? How can that be? Where is the Divine karma to do unto others what's been done to us? Are we left with just the tyler boys and the info-bits of contradictory web site message board messages? Personally, I don't think so. I believe in the cosmic ideal of good overcoming evil. I think that the shorting of CMKX got out of control, and the market manipulators got in so deep, they tossed everything they had to make us die. But we didn't die. I believe it's all being sorted out as we sit here...and that yeah, we WILL be vindicated and rewarded for what has happened to us. The tyler boys? Just a side-show while we wait. We shall persevere! imo john
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 27, 2007 13:10:32 GMT -5
By: Bellingus 27 Dec 2007, 08:13 AM EST Msg. 28708 of 28711 Jump to msg. # “Failure to compile, absorb, comprehend, and effectively collate available documents, data, and pertinent facts, despite all outward appearances, will inevitably result in erroneous conclusions detrimental to the outcome of your case and your ability to receive maximum remuneration.” Merriweather Peppercorn Bellingus Ph.D (Harvard Law Professor 1902 – 1923) This quote was culled from the opening remarks in “Pepper’s” highly popular “Contracts 102” which commenced for the first session on September 6, 1909. The grades for that class were as follows: 14-C 5-F 4-D 2-B 2-A ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01247&read=28708
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 27, 2007 13:12:47 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 27, 2007 13:13:54 GMT -5
Injunjoe Gemologist Quote: There is a line between Attorney confidentiality ........ If the Attorney's Client waves the confidentiality agreement, the Attorney must answer questions. As in our case with CMKX; CMKX hired Glenn (and other attorneys) to do work for CMKX. Therefore, Urban as CEO can claim his right of confidentiality with CMKX. However, now that Kevin is in charge; Kevin can tell the Attorneys their released from their client confidentiality and cooperate and answer questions to investigative authorities. That's what happened with those boxes of information Kevin received! Urban told the Attorney to keep the CMKX Corporate Records confidential and unavailable to others. But when Kevin became CEO, Kevin asked all Attorneys to release their files back to CMKX (Kevin and Bill). And any Attorney that refused to do so would end up in Jail for not release the CMKX Corporate Records! And most of the documents released lately are from discovery in the lawsuits filed by Kevin and Bill. The stuff from the boxes of documents aren't even posted yet!!! www.cmkx.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16522
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