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Post by soonerlew on Dec 27, 2007 13:14:30 GMT -5
www.cmkmdiamondsinc.com/documents/g-gutierrez-personal-oct-2004-fiserv-acct.pdfInjunjoe Gemologist Want to know something interesting? Read the Certification paragraph at the end of the first page and top of the second. Notice the name of that company, CEC Industries? Look who is the board of directors of that company. www.secinfo.com/d1KSg.9y.htm Ronald J. Robinson President and Director Donald J. Stoecklein Secretary and Director Ronald G. Stoecklein Treasurer and Director Robert Maheu Director Someone is in it waist deep and its getting worse every day. Patrick Injunjoe Gemologist And Sarge dug this up non Ron Stocklein. Quote: In SEC v. Softpoint, Inc.,52 a lifetime bar order was entered against Ronald G. Stoecklein who, as president, chief operating officer, and director of a software company had created millions of dollars in fictitious sales in order to enhance his company’s financial statements. “Coincident with his activities on behalf of Softpoint, Stoecklein enriched himself through insider trading in Softpoint common stock.”53[/color] 52. 958 F. Supp. 846 (S.D.N.Y. 1997), aff’d, 159 F.3d 1348 (2d Cir. 1998). Exactly what Ron was up to. content.lawyerlinks.com/library/sec/cases/pdfs/958_fsupp_846.pdf Injunjoe Gemologist Siggy wrote: Don't forget folks, Maheu was active with business dealings and the mob concerning sale of Vegas casinos. Different world....differnet rules. No. And herein lies the problem with sitting through too many Paltalk sessions. There is no payout, no sting, and at best Maheu was an unwitting part of a huge fraud. Read the Gutierrez thread and you'll see that Maheu and Stocklein are no stangers to pink sheet scams. Injunjoe Gemologist realest wrote: This must be why Mahue was never paid in full. Mahue is smart enough to distance himself from coming avalanches. He's likely going to play the ole "i'm just a rubber stamp guy" routine. Unfortunately, he probably really is just a low down rubber stamper who takes money for using his name. He has no real vested interest or knowledge other than he gets money, others use his name. Our court transcripts will prove his alibi. Right, and in the end he's no better than the rest. Especially since he knew full well his name was touted as a huge benefit for us, and he never really did one d**ned thing for us. And now that we know he was involved from the very beginning, in my book he's just as deserving of criminal prosecution as the rest. And hopefully he's named in the coming lawsuits. www.cmkx.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16527
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 27, 2007 13:15:12 GMT -5
john3339 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Squeeze gently ..........................but PAY BIG! Re: Is possible ROI in CMKX? « Reply #8 on Today at 10:24am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 9:34am, sptrader wrote:Yes a ROI on CMKX is possible, if Kevin can accomplish his plan to recover a decent percentage of the $200 mil in assets stolen from us and get CMKX trading again, that would be the only way that I can see at this point. Trading again would also FORCE an NSS cover or settlement, if one still exists. jmho Do you honestly think the SEC will reinstate CMKX with an AS of 800 billion and a proved NS position of 2+ trillion shares? If they did, they'd be doing so with full expectation of Wall Street Armageddon. IMO, they'll never let 2 trillion naked shorts go on the market for a forced cover. The squeeze would collapse the system. Their only way out is for a settled cover before any reinstatement takes place, AND a RS to get the AS into a realistic number. Unless the tyler boys have already let shortie off the hook, the NSS position is our answer, imo. But, it's a double edged sword. On one hand, it shows shortie for the crook he is, and demands reparation for theft on such a scale...but on the other side, as formidable as it is, we'll never accomplish reinstatement while they're on our books, the squeeze for shortie to buy back nearly three times the AS, just to break even would crush the system. LOGIC. It demands that the NSSs be settled before any rational attempt for reinstatement takes place. Now comes the $64,000 question: Did the tyler boys already let shortie off the hook? I sure hope not! imo john millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1198759156
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 27, 2007 13:15:43 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 27 Dec 2007, 10:59 AM EST Msg. 637243 of 637276 Jump to msg. # Bellingus, that's great,,, but not everyone has the same analytic abilities. why must these things remain hidden from the average person? doesn't the company/urban want to make a million millionaires? how will it accomplish this if it keeps the best info from 99% of its investors? certainly it won't return to trading and keep the best, most pertinent information hidden until the short has been covered in the market,,, and then reveal its true holdings? naaaaah,,,, they wouldn't do that. and if it's not going to do that then none of us needs to do a thing since the problem should be fixed while we're revoked and the decision making is out of our hands. so, if urban is set to be served and be required to appear in february it must mean the solution will be triggered in feb., march, or april. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=637243
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 27, 2007 13:16:13 GMT -5
By: upedo 26 Dec 2007, 05:29 PM EST Msg. 637075 of 637277 Jump to msg. # The focus on Urban is to make him the key to when the settlement pool is developed. Once all the ducks are in a row and the laudered and hidden money is discovered, then Urban will be served. The NSS has been identified and will not be paid, only the bonified shareholders will be paid from the settlement pool. I believe this will become public record this spring. I think we will all be told how much will be distributed and what that will amount to per share. This will take the form of a proposed settlement of a class action motion. A court will set a fairness hearing and all of the paperwork for the reimbusement will be sent out to the bonified shareholders. The lawsuit: The Settlement will resolve claims asserted in a classaction lawsuit filed against the former officers and directors of CMKM over whether they misrepresented the financial status and assets (claims) of the company. Once this is complete, then the new CMKM will file its financials and show its true assets, (if they have any assets)(big if) and return to trading. I think we wil get a settlement and then we will RS the shares of CMKM and return to trading based on the newly established value. - - - - - ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=637075By: phxgold 26 Dec 2007, 05:39 PM EST Msg. 637083 of 637277 (This msg. is a reply to 637075 by upedo.) Jump to msg. # 1 thing, Bill cannot file a class action as he has been hired by the company to represent it as an entity. we the shareholders of teh company are not a class we are owners of teh entity that is being represented by frizzell, koch, skow, and gerry cutler. and whoever else bill has hored on behalf of the company. - - - - - By: snoopstock613 27 Dec 2007, 11:51 AM EST Msg. 637256 of 637277 (This msg. is a reply to 637083 by phxgold.) Jump to msg. # Bill cannot be representing the company and us. He either represents the company or the shareholders. Representing both is a conflict of interest and not judge will allow conflicts of interest. Enough of this. He will do what he feels is the best for the COMPANY.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 27, 2007 13:16:53 GMT -5
By: upedo 26 Dec 2007, 05:29 PM EST Msg. 637075 of 637281 Jump to msg. # The focus on Urban is to make him the key to when the settlement pool is developed. Once all the ducks are in a row and the laudered and hidden money is discovered, then Urban will be served. The NSS has been identified and will not be paid, only the bonified shareholders will be paid from the settlement pool. I believe this will become public record this spring. I think we will all be told how much will be distributed and what that will amount to per share. This will take the form of a proposed settlement of a class action motion. A court will set a fairness hearing and all of the paperwork for the reimbusement will be sent out to the bonified shareholders. The lawsuit: The Settlement will resolve claims asserted in a classaction lawsuit filed against the former officers and directors of CMKM over whether they misrepresented the financial status and assets (claims) of the company. Once this is complete, then the new CMKM will file its financials and show its true assets, (if they have any assets)(big if) and return to trading. I think we wil get a settlement and then we will RS the shares of CMKM and return to trading based on the newly established value. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=637075By: my69z 26 Dec 2007, 09:58 PM EST Msg. 637152 of 637280 (This msg. is a reply to 637075 by upedo.) Jump to msg. # Upedo,,,,, there's only one small problem with this process,,,,,,,,it's a very........very long and costly process and filled with all kind of challenges. There's alot of cases out there that don't even qualify as Class actions that would seem like no brainers. Simpler way,,,,,get back the assets....go back to trading,,,,,,if your not payin attention and sell some or all for a profit...then you'll get a full R/S. Quicker,,easier and cheaper..... Glty, Chris By: upedo 27 Dec 2007, 01:35 AM EST Msg. 637187 of 637280 (This msg. is a reply to 637152 by my69z.) Jump to msg. # my69z, I guessI have been unclear about my message. What I am trying to say is that a class action suit can be brought agaist the past directors and officers to recover trading damages for an inflated pps do to the reckless misrepresentations of the financials and claims assets. This would be a class against the individuals and a settlemnt fund would be set up to hold the payments made by the individuals who together made the misrepresentations. This class wpold not deal with the actual laundered and stolen assets, only the damages caused to the investors buying on misinformation. I have been part of such a class where the settlement fund is being distributed for acclaim entertaiment AKLM. It took 2 years to complete. Recovering assets and returning them to the company is being done by the company thru Frizzel and West. I do not know how the NSS can be delt with other than an open market cover because the courts will not recognize NSS as being an illegal action. The courts seem to be claiming the NSS is a regulatory matter that is only in the SEC's hands because they only find some types of NSS against regulations. It is my understanding that the courts have rejected ruling or hearing NSS cases because it is a regulatory mater of discretion. In a nut shell: I think Frizzel and West want to recover assets and created updated filings to return to trading to force a cover thru settlement by the threat of an open market cover. I do not think they are going to be able to go after the previous directors and officers on our behalf to collect trading damages for inflating the pps by misrepresenting the claims values and financials and financial transactions, I think we need to do that thru a class of our own. - - - - - By: johnnyic 27 Dec 2007, 09:39 AM EST Msg. 637222 of 637280 (This msg. is a reply to 637187 by upedo.) Jump to msg. # upedo... reckless misrepresentations of the financials and claims assets...
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Post by JoeRockss on Dec 27, 2007 20:05:12 GMT -5
from willy wizards weekly update
CMKM Diamonds Inc.
Rumors are still flying around that CMKX is alive. I'll continue to watch for live that increases my portfolio value. This is the only thing that will impress me at this time.
Thank you,
Hal Engel aka WillyWizard
(apx. 925 million shares)
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 28, 2007 10:24:41 GMT -5
misisipiflyer Global Moderator Locked & Loaded member is offline Re: Tidbits......Just The Way You Like'm! « Reply #12 on Yesterday at 3:38pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: leowanta 27 Dec 2007, 11:55 AM EST Msg. 637257 of 637302 Jump to msg. # i hope all had a MERRY CHRISTMAS, i see many were on the boards, still searching for something.... well, here is a tidbit..... Newmont Canada's quarterly dividend pays tomorrow...December 28th.........nice will we get back-to-back checks.... now through january ...days we will remember for a long time.... MQ'S FAMOUS WORDS: "THE POCKET YOU IN MAY NOT BE THE POCKET YOU IN!" let's see....6-10 days from December 18th....(add in a few days for Christmas delay mailing) then 6-10 days from December 28... jay says the first weeks of january will be memorable...i think he is right.... THANK YOU SEC/MAHEU/UC Thank You Father leowanta ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=637257
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 28, 2007 10:25:10 GMT -5
misisipiflyer Global Moderator Locked & Loaded member is offline Re: Tidbits......Just The Way You Like'm! « Reply #13 on Yesterday at 9:03pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: leowanta 27 Dec 2007, 05:49 PM EST Msg. 637339 of 637418 (This msg. is a reply to 637309 by dame1971.) Jump to msg. # "like kind and quantity" December 18, 2007 December 28, 2007 let the gates to the heritage funds open! Thank You Father leowanta camrhon.proboards102.com/index.cgi?board=safe&action=display&thread=1197467838
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 28, 2007 10:26:23 GMT -5
walkingdeadusmc DIAMOND MINER An insiders comments on value of claims to me « Thread Started on Yesterday at 10:51pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I moved this from one thread to my own. Have only told a handful of people close to me. I feel now is the time to tell all. FWIW I used to talk to an insider very close to Casavant. He liked me and we got along well. He liked to chatter, ask freebird. In Las Vegas I asked him if they [Urban, CMKX and company] knew what they had up there [Canada]. His eyes got big and said, oh they know what they have up there allright, that's why Urban released the entire A/S, [800 billion]. Based on this statement and further conversation, my interpretation was, the claims were so rich and the potential value was more than any one could imagine, that it did not matter how many shares were outstanding. This is not my opinion, rumor, make it up, or here say, but in fact the conversation took place. You may make you're own interpretation. Whether we still have rights to the claims, I don't know, although I feel if BF, KW and the boyz behind the scenes pulling the strings [puppets, LOL] can recover just a small part of the most valuable claims, resulting in assets, return us to trading with resolution of N/S, with IMO a needed R/S, we will eventually see a handsome ROI. Last paragraph IMO. millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1198813870Tom Fant (tfant53) Mod Squad #1 Secret Service Mod Tom Fant, yep that's my name....why hide behind a screen name..... Respect your fellow posters!! Re: An insiders comments on value of claims to me « Reply #3 on Yesterday at 11:11pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I met you at the Atlanta race and tried to fix you up with one of the Brut girls, sorry that did not work out...LOL. While we were there that weekend I did come to find that you were very close with CMKX insiders as well as other people working closely with CMKX. I do trust what you have to post. Tom
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 28, 2007 12:05:34 GMT -5
lizzo DIAMOND DIGGER Settlement or return to trading... « Thread Started on Today at 10:02am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deserves its own thread...Kinda sums it up... Thanks john3339 Dec 26, 2007, 7:14pm, sptrader wrote:Why not ask Urban where our $200+ million is ? NSS will be taken care of when we trade again. (too expensive to fight in court) jmho I can't believe I'm asking this again...but tell me please, how do you expect ANY exchange to let CMKX trade again, with an AS of 800 BILLION, and a naked short position of up to 2 (or more) trillion shares? Come on, be logical here. There's no way CMKX is going to trade again with that kind of king-sized baggage! The NSS issue will have to be resolved, and the AS will have to be reduced to a reasonable size. Now come the questions: Did the tyler boys let the naked short get covered already? They don't say much about our "ace in the hole" any more do they? The tyler boys have not mentioned anything about the share structure. Have they already come up with a share structure proposal, that wipes out most of us through a RS? Now, let's talk about marketable assets. Cash is not a marketable asset (for trading). Yeah you need it to continue operations, but WHAT operations? Where's the old claims map? Do the tyler boys have their brand on any of those old claims? All I ever hear is about how they want to get $200 million returned...I have yet to see the paper trail that adds up to $200 million, and I have yet to see how that $200 million is going to translate into a viable publicly traded mining and exploration company. Do the tyler boys even know the difference between kimberlite and limestone? Oh wait, kw has SEEN the core samples, so he at least has seen kimberlite. Now, has he ever seen limestone to see any differences? Point is, with what the tyler boys have let us in on, disregarding the contraditions, there is NO evidence that they are doing anything seriously connected with a return to trading. NOTHING! If there was any evidence, we'd see something about a proposed share structure, a NSS resolution plan, some idea of what claims they plan to build a viable company around, SOME inkling of a business plan, SOMETHING? But the info-bits give us nothing but contradictions, wishful thinking, empty calorie tripe. The info-bits mentioned hiring several professionals, but that was so long ago, COUNTRIES have been built in less time! Have these people completed their work, but are withholding the results until they get paid from that $500 nest egg? Professionals don't work cheap, and they don't work for free. RETURN TO TRADING? Someone please explain, from what the tyler boys have released through their message board web site info-bit releases, how the heck they're doing on that task? and tell me again, how wonderful it's going to be for me and the thousands of other shareholders, with the new share structure in this nice new corporation! The naked short position provides for specific penalties - a matter of law. Oh, 'scuse me, frizz ISN'T a SECURITIES LAWYER, is he? Too bad none of us shareholders wasn't hit by a bus! At least then we'd have an ambulance for ol frizz to chase! The bouncing ball watchers get me so frustrated sometimes! The tyler boys are just the floor show! They're not the main attraction! They're the act that comes on BEFORE the warm-up act! SSSHHHHHHHHEEEEEEESH! imo john millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1198854147
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 28, 2007 12:06:04 GMT -5
Paintedhorse DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Riding For The Brand! Full Disclosure and Transparency! « Thread Started on Today at 11:15am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Has our CEO been forthcoming to shareholders re events and activities of the Company? Is he diligently pursuing avenues of discovery and recovery? Are the "Updates" simply a smokescreen for diversion and pressure relief? Are KW and his hired legal counsel fairly representing shareholders? Perhaps - perhaps not! Can shareholders individually or collectively file an action against the Company and CEO? Yes they can! Will they be successful in such an endeavor and is it even a good idea at this point? No to both IMHO! But there well may come a time in the near future when such action is appropriate. And KW should understand that some quite serious shareholders will take that course, if necessary, regardless of rhetoric from a few that such cannot be done. It most assurely can and successfully so! So what should our CEO do if he really cares about investors - continually post inane updates to the website, put out Merry Christmas and Happy New Year messages, or sit back and say nothing? Well he has done all those with little result other than continued anger, resentment, and frustration. I would rather that he and Frizzel put on their big boy panties and support the troops with more disclosure and transparency. More specifically, they could summarize the following for starters: 1. Status of NSS audit by Trembath 2. Status of Shareholder Audit, i.e., TA records 3. Status of Financial Statement audit 4. Status of Litigation 5. Status of Corporate Funding, i.e., amounts and terms We have been informed that "experts" were engaged by the Company to perform the tasks noted in (1) - (4), so give us an update of each. This is done all the time by Companies without violating confidential agreements or sensitive negotiations. And please do not tell me that they might compromise ongoing and/or future actions. I was in the game for 30+ years - I know better! BTW, I would love to fully support these lads, but they have done nothing to date to inspire confidence from the masses. Could it be that they really don't care about them, i.e., it's none of your dam... business!! A Happy and Prosperous New Year to each of you, including Kevin and Bill. After all, they are shareholders too! Cowboy up Kevin! We are patiently waiting and time is on our side! Tex millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1198858535
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 28, 2007 14:37:36 GMT -5
kranker Administrator "All that evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke Mainstream media still clueless about CMKM « Thread Started on Today at 9:01am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the article below, the author Peter Carbonara is obviously clueless about the CMKM Diamonds saga, which makes the Crazy Eddie story look like child's play. Here's the statement from the article, The total dollars involved were puny and the scams simple compared with later baroque swindles like Enron, but for sheer cojones, Crazy Eddie remains unchallenged. As WE know, many of the penny stock scams dwarf the mainstream corporate crimes like Crazy Eddies, both in terms of dollars stolen ($145 million Crazie Eddie's vs. $200+ million CMKM) and the over the top performances of the crooks involved (NHRA Dragsters anyone?). If you know the author, Peter Carbonara, you might want to give him a call to open his eyes to the real world that exists beyond his limited scope. This guy, Sam Antar, has NOTHING on the shenanigans pulled off by our own Urban Casavant and company-LOL ---------------------------------------------- December 25 2007: 9:40 AM EST Takes one to know one Sam Antar, the felonious former CFO of Crazy Eddie, is now teaching students and prosecutors how to spot fraud in public companies. By Peter Carbonara (Fortune Magazine) -- Sam E. Antar is a convicted felon, and he will not let anyone forget it for a minute. Whenever you find yourself starting to think of him as merely a fast-talking yet charming New York character, he'll come out with something like: "I had no remorse whatsoever as a criminal. I had no concern about any other human being. I enjoyed being a criminal." Antar is a cousin of "Crazy Eddie" Antar, the eponymous founder of the notorious New York City-area consumer electronics chain of the '70s and '80s. The business was a forerunner of Best Buy and famous for TV spots featuring a manic, turtleneck-wearing pitchman promising that Crazy Eddie's "prices are insaaaane!" Actually, it was the bookkeeping that was insane, and today it provides a cautionary tale that Sam Antar likes to tell, Ancient Mariner-style, to would-be stock pickers. When the company, which went public in 1984, blew up in a financial scandal in 1987, Sam Antar, an accountant, was its CFO. The debacle cost investors roughly $145 million and involved just about every kind of accounting fraud then known to man, including receipt skimming, money laundering, and the counting of bogus inventory. The total dollars involved were puny and the scams simple compared with later baroque swindles like Enron, but for sheer cojones, Crazy Eddie remains unchallenged. More, money.cnn.com/2007/12/21/news/newsmakers/antar.fortune/index.htm?source=yahoo_quotecmkxunitedforum.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1198850507
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 28, 2007 14:42:50 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 27 Dec 2007, 07:41 PM EST Msg. 637410 of 637629 Jump to msg. # leowanta rg and don and bob and the rest all worked together, that is what the evidence says. Just know the team was assembled early on and did their jobs right to the ending that is going on right now. Rogers assets are not frozen, roger trapped the short while don worked with the sec on sho. Don's address was sggm's, he was in on it earlier than most think. This was never tough to figure out that this was an operation, just tough to figure out what was the truth along the way sometimes as they created the doubt, they worked the boards imo. Cheers By: scruffy_too 27 Dec 2007, 09:28 PM EST Msg. 637424 of 637629 (This msg. is a reply to 637410 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # Gus, I sure go along with the theory here, however I have some reservations about the context that this is all happening in. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts... Yes, we were wronged and maybe we can prove it, BUT at the same time we have an economy diving into the toilet, the plunge protection team doing all that they can to try and maintain stability in the Economy, Wall Street and the Fed in a battle for their survival and damage control, and we are to believe that anyone really gives a rat's ### about our historic FTD problem at this point? It may be, but I sure don't see it... Maybe trading again (somewhere) will be needed to force the resolution here? By: gusjarvis 27 Dec 2007, 09:40 PM EST Msg. 637425 of 637629 (This msg. is a reply to 637424 by scruffy_too.) Jump to msg. # scruffy don't worry we were paid by the cert pull end, take that to the bank, and we were paid before the dollar slid. cheers buddy, it is not hard to see though and ps the proof was in the post I made a dozen times where the sec admitted it cleared old fails with the federal reserve and the brokers, they had already made significant progress by the end of 2006, it is all done. This ending is happening just like planned but we are and have been fine for a long time. Bill said he proved the largest short then did a cert pull and got it paid for, or you wouldn't have your cert my friend, hang in there By: scruffy_too 27 Dec 2007, 10:51 PM EST Msg. 637459 of 637630 (This msg. is a reply to 637425 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # Thanks Gus, Any idea in what bank and currency the settlement resides? ;-) So if I read this correctly, you are simply saying that we are awaiting the court case resolutions to provide the necessary "cover story" for the resolution to this problem? That would certainly work for most of us, probably... The problem of course is that Tyler are insisting still that there is Nada settled or confirmed to be coming our way... That has to be very hard on them too... - - - - - By: gusjarvis 28 Dec 2007, 10:04 AM EST Msg. 637508 of 637631 (This msg. is a reply to 637459 by scruffy_too.) Jump to msg. # hey scruffy ya this has to be hard on kevin and bill for sure to take one for the team and look this impotent. I remember like most that it was going to come out under something big to hide it, well it looks like subprime to me, and if my guess is right the news will come out under a presidential and vice resignation under torture charges. They can say they did it to save lives, but that doesn't cut it, it is illegal and they know it knew it and did it. Testimony is on the 16th and the head of the cia giving it may ask for immunity, now that will be big imo and right after urban's first date. The money is hopefully sitting in a trust that they can move into other currencies and gold as they knew the fed printed money to get out of these messes and knew the dollar would drop as many on the boards figured out well over a year ago. - - - - - By: imsoweary 28 Dec 2007, 11:46 AM EST Msg. 637570 of 637632 (This msg. is a reply to 637508 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gusjarvis, pure, unadulterated poppythingy. This is so sbsurd that I can't even believe you believe it. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=637570
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 28, 2007 14:43:51 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 27 Dec 2007, 08:22 AM EST Msg. 637208 of 637632 Jump to msg. # who will be responsible for notifying investors CMKX is eligible to trade again? and who will pay for that notification? the company can't afford to pay, it only has $550 in the bank. sure, everyone reading the stock boards will hear the news, but what about the 20,000 to 50,000 cmkx investors that don't read the boards? how do they learn CMKX is returning to trade again? and where will they go for additional information? it's not the TA's responsibility. it's not the broker's responsibility. it should be the company's responsibility, but given how little money they have in checking they can't afford to buy even 1,500 first class stamps. so where is the money coming from? do we return to trading and somehow cmkx investors are suppose to hear about it,,, somehow? weird. By: tenn21 27 Dec 2007, 01:06 PM EST Msg. 637279 of 637632 (This msg. is a reply to 637208 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rozenctantz2010-- I don't want to sound harsh or ignorant of the facts on this subject, but it seems to me the responsibility of knowing any facts or eligibility of trade or anything else of or about any company or companies business or businesses is entirely up to the individual whom is concerned or not concerned--that is generally called "DD". As far as PAYIING for anything goes, what is wrong with following the PR's that is put out by "TYLER"?? JMHO/FWIW tenn21 By: justmoby 27 Dec 2007, 01:22 PM EST Msg. 637287 of 637632 (This msg. is a reply to 637279 by tenn21.) Jump to msg. # tenn21 the tylers do not put out "PR's" they only give updates of which there is no accountability. what the tyler twins post holds no more water than many posts on RB ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=637279
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 28, 2007 14:45:09 GMT -5
By: imsoweary 27 Dec 2007, 06:24 PM EST Msg. 637358 of 637632 (This msg. is a reply to 637287 by justmoby.) Jump to msg. # justmoby, can you blame them? Every PR put out by CMKX is treated as if it is gospel and you guys hang on to them for dear life. Things are extremely fluid right now, as the process of discovery proceeds. The last thing they want is to be pigeon holed like you guys did with Bill's 2 trillion NSS statement. You guys make no allowance for changes. Maybe if you were a little more flexible and understanding of how fluid things really are, you might get some PRs but in the current climate of holding Bill & Kevin's feet to the fire for every little statement they make, forget about it. I don't blame them. By: repeaterpete 27 Dec 2007, 08:19 PM EST Msg. 637412 of 637632 (This msg. is a reply to 637358 by imsoweary.) Jump to msg. # imsoweary is now making excuses for the Tyler twins....good grief, if they make statements, they should stick to them, shouldn't they? Where is the hotline? Those dopes have no clue or qualifications to run a company. - - - - - By: imsoweary 27 Dec 2007, 10:37 PM EST Msg. 637451 of 637632 (This msg. is a reply to 637412 by repeaterpete.) Jump to msg. # repeaterpete, again, why are you so intent on defaming, embarrasing and demeaning the Tyler Team? Your comments clearly indicate a pro-active, determined effort to undermine them. Why and who is paying you to do so? CMKX is not a simple story. It is one of the most complex cases of stock manipulation and fraud in the last 50 years. New information and details come to light almost daily. Anyone of any intelligence is going to realize that given this kind of climate, flexibility is demanded. To remain rigid and stuck on prior statements and analysis is foolhardy and dangerous. Things are changing rapidly and what may have been true before may not be true today, or tomorrow. Only by opening onesself to new information, thoughts, ideas and analysis will anyone be able to come to any realistic and meaningful conclusions. Kevin is deeply involved in investigating an extremely convoluted scam involving numerous other companies, trusts, banks, bank accounts, brokers etc. It is extremely time consuming and as a result, Kevin had to decide what was in the company's and the shareholder's best interests, answer the phone or continue with the investigations. His time is obviously better spend investigating and researching rather than answering calls from a bunch of whinny crybabies who have an angenda of their own and are most probably in the back pocket of the very people he is fighting. In who's best interest would it be to see Bill & Kevin fail? If they do, neither you nor I or any other shareholders will get anything. So why would a genuine shareholder actively seek to undermine them knowing this? There is only one explanation and that is if the person actively seek to undermine them is actually a plant working for the enemy. How long have you been on their payroll? I for one am glad to see Kevin concentrating his time and efforts on the investigation. I think they are doing a tremendous job in the face of extreme adversity. He is the CEO of the company and does not need to waste his time on the phone with people. If you cannot undersand that, then it is good that you are not the one at the healm. Tell us all the truth, repeaterpete, who is your employer? ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=637451
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