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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:32:06 GMT -5
By: johnnyic 15 Sep 2008, 02:11 PM EDT Msg. 765342 of 765500 Jump to msg. # DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALISE, THERE'S A BLOOD BATH GOING ON OUT THERE but posters without Bona fide certs still bother to post there concerns on a revoked pink sheet financial chatting board....
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:33:07 GMT -5
By: leowanta 15 Sep 2008, 02:26 PM EDT Msg. 765352 of 765500 (This msg. is a reply to 765347 by ÿinvalid_sender.) Jump to msg. # not cmkx shares gag....as of October 25, 2005, all cmkx shares, all classes of this stock were declared UNREGISTERED....and the security was REVOKED....done...nobody can now trade cmkx UNREGISTERED shares...it's illegal there aren't ANY in the market that are "registered" so says Judge Brenda.
leowanta
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:34:45 GMT -5
By: leowanta 15 Sep 2008, 02:57 PM EDT Msg. 765358 of 765500 (This msg. is a reply to 765356 by gran1pop.) Jump to msg. # now, go google unregistred shares... and if that doesn't do it for you go to the horses mouth...the sec and search UNREGISTERED SHARES leowanta By: gusjarvis 15 Sep 2008, 03:19 PM EDT Msg. 765359 of 765500 (This msg. is a reply to 765358 by leowanta.) Jump to msg. # leo here it is amazing the sec allowed the most red flagged stock ever to supposedly dump over six hundred billion shares to us hey given most was done after the criminals were caught and with our team and the bulldog here What is unregistered shares? what are the pros/cons of having unregistered shares? 1 year ago Report Abuse Investop... Best Answer - Chosen by Asker Unregistered shares (also more commonly known as Restricted Shares) refer to shares that were not purchased as part of any public offering. In most situations, restricted shares are given to a company's insiders (such as the founders and/or management team) for compensation and other purposes. In many cases, restricted shares are often a special type of common stock and come with all the benefits and drawbacks associated with them. However, there is one major difference with restricted stock is that they cannot be sold until at least a certain predefined amount of time has passed (often 1 year) and the proper documentation has been filed with the Securities Exchange Commission (SEC). The purpose of these requirements is make sure that the goals of management and other insiders are aligned with the company shareholders. If no selling restrictions were in place, insiders may just as well sell their shares for cash and may not perform their duty as well compared to a situation where their personal benefit depended on the company's performance. 1 year ago Source(s): Definition of Restricted Stock www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rest... www.nysscpa.org/cpajournal/1997/0... By: leowanta 15 Sep 2008, 03:36 PM EDT Msg. 765361 of 765502 (This msg. is a reply to 765359 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # yes, i read that but it doesn't apply to cmkx, because our shares were purchased in a public offering..they were not restricted... the form 15 terminated reporting...if you don't report the shares are "unregistered" getting a certificate of unregistered shares after a Judge rules all those shares UNREGISTERED....doesn't make them registered. gran1pops google was defined as registered shares simply put in certificate form...which is not what happened to cmkx shares...our shares were declared UNREGISTERED the security REVOKED and then for THIS DISTRIBUTION ONLY...a certificate pull was done...to find the shareholders of the UNREGISTERED SHARES.... it's in our initial decision 7-12-05 clearly stating all classes of CMKX shares are UNREGISTERED ...... no sec person can overrule Judge Murray, no Transfer Agent can overrule Judge Murray....our shares were unregistered as of July 22, 2003.....that traded in the market place as unregistered shares due to the Form 15 filing, therefore all shares are NAKED SHORTED SHARES because you cannot legally short sale as in borrow unregistered shares. that is the animal we hold leowanta
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:40:05 GMT -5
By: lilburrito0 15 Sep 2008, 12:58 PM EDT Msg. 765325 of 765502 (This msg. is a reply to 765314 by aladin99.) Jump to msg. # aladin99
There's no way I am going to argue with you about what unregistered shares are and/or the relevance of how you correlate unregistered shares into NSS.
Unregistered shares are "real shares" backed up with a certificate. The problem is; no registration statement was filed with the SEC before dumping the shares on the market.
And if Urban did follow the SEC registration rules, this would have tipped off the public on the dilution.
By: aladin99 15 Sep 2008, 04:00 PM EDT Msg. 765369 of 765502 (This msg. is a reply to 765325 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. # lilburrito0, everyone simply understands what Unregistered Shares are but what SEC call shares that sold by brokers, bankers, and hedgies? can the call NS??? If they said so would they be in trouble??
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:41:12 GMT -5
By: aladin99 15 Sep 2008, 04:05 PM EDT Msg. 765375 of 765502 (This msg. is a reply to 765371 by goodolboy27.) Jump to msg. # Goodolboy - Is there short huge in CMKX??? I bet U Unregistered shares happened on 9 out of 10 penny stocks back in 2001-2004 and why SEC only cares about CMKX....Why???
By: aladin99 15 Sep 2008, 04:07 PM EDT Msg. 765376 of 765503 Jump to msg. # Goodolboy - The problem with many folks including Urself are... they said...there was a huge short not long ago and now say no short....
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:42:38 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 15 Sep 2008, 04:16 PM EDT Msg. 765380 of 765503 (This msg. is a reply to 765361 by leowanta.) Jump to msg. # leo what made them registered was the check that came along with the etrade certs and others!
By: leowanta 15 Sep 2008, 04:32 PM EDT Msg. 765384 of 765503 (This msg. is a reply to 765380 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # huh? nope, it takes a Judge to rule they are registered...
that ain't happening anytime soon folks.
leowanta
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:43:50 GMT -5
By: grajekk 15 Sep 2008, 06:04 PM EDT Msg. 765402 of 765505 Jump to msg. # Don't we shareholders have to approve the BOD? Or has the company gone private? I am becoming very concerned that this is really the J Martin puppet show. I was informed yesterday, that other qualified individuals for CEO were never even interviewed. And now they are trying to tell me Faulk is qualified to run a mining/exploration company. Starting to look like grand theft diamonds to me! This was all a done deal imo even before they put out that bogus search for a ceo notice. There is something H.S. in Tyler me thinks...
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:46:04 GMT -5
By: my69z 15 Sep 2008, 08:23 PM EDT Msg. 765445 of 765506 (This msg. is a reply to 765442 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rosen,,,, " and noted Mr. Edwards submitted himself to the disgorgement procedure, and has hired an attorney for that.
That was months after CMKX already had a default against Edwards....hopefully something similar will come out against Urban and all those others who are clearly in default now.
If so,,,it's a good exchange for the silence right now
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:47:05 GMT -5
By: ravenpeach1 15 Sep 2008, 08:26 PM EDT Msg. 765446 of 765506 (This msg. is a reply to 745012 by nufced.) Jump to msg. # Nuffy, Ivory and Bhollenegg are Great Americans.... just for your info....
I still don't understand your stance in all this....
Urban is not in jail, and is not a criminal.... nor did he take this company down....or leave it to bankruptsy.....
I am looking for Urban to be VINDICATED....and soon....
And if he is... I hope you will do what is right...
I of course wish you well...but if you d*mn Urban.... then I have a less opinion of you than I want too.... I hope that all explains itself soon... and this stage of our life in CMKX is brought to the end of stage one....
I for one, see everything that was foretold to us.... Everything....
Until the banks, are globally united upon Gold and Hard Assets, the markets and global banking will not be safe... I believe we are moving towards a future direction for the good of All Man Kind in Many Nations.... and I believe all of this happened because of Mr Maheu and Urban, with the resources needed to correct the markets, the financial institutions and the brokers... If I am wrong...so be it.. but I have followed the lead of the few that have given us the rumors that have now panned out to be true... so the rest may just be the Truth..... We have to have GOLD BACKING, and MR MAHEU did not bring us down this road to LOOSE>>>>>>>> He would not allow us to be paid with money that is no good...... WE WON!
God Bless
Ravenpeach
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:47:48 GMT -5
By: ravenpeach1 15 Sep 2008, 08:39 PM EDT Msg. 765450 of 765507 Jump to msg. # Ask: Points to conjour up the right responses.... Why are the banks going down? Why is the currency going down? What do we need to happen to turn this around? Hundreds of Banks.... going down... Currency is going down..... we need a NEW CURENCY or one BACKED UP BY ACTUAL GOLD OR HARD ASSETS TO BE A GLOBAL BANKING SYSTEM that can accomodate the WORLD...
IMO That is happening... but Joe Public doesn't see it yet....
Is it going to happen?
When is it if so?
God Bless
Ravenpeach
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:48:36 GMT -5
By: ravenpeach1 15 Sep 2008, 08:51 PM EDT Msg. 765455 of 765507 (This msg. is a reply to 765450 by ravenpeach1.) Jump to msg. # Also, add this: Why would we be paid with the banks not backed by a standard, gold or hard assets? Why?
We were locked in CMKX, for a reason..... We proved the market manipulation and the NSS throughout the Market, bankrupting thousands of companies, and it was time that the corruption and the manipulators were caught. It was time that the stock that we bought and invested in, was made safe, and could now become the stock that it should because the CEO believed that what he bought could make millionaires out of everyday people, like you and me......
What a dream..... and it is coming true, in my opinion.... I believe that by being shareholders in this stock..... we have been blessed.... What do I think? I hope and pray, that all that are and will be receiving, will be gracious and blessed and know that there is more to being a human than just living, but helping others and seeing that human beings are cared for, and given the choices and chances they deserve......
We owe it to America ... and since this is owned all across the world, we owe it to the WORLD to become a living example of what GOOD can do right here on EARTH!
We must love our neighbor.... but raise our neighbors with respect and with the same rights as all.... We must honor the CODE:
DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD DO UNTO YOURSELF....
Not trying to preach..... just sharing... I care about our World... I care about the USA... and I deeply care of how we will live honoring our code.... and honoring each other.....
People love how disasters help bring people together... I love it when people come together without a disaster......
God Bless
Ravenpeach
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 21:49:21 GMT -5
By: nufced 15 Sep 2008, 09:00 PM EDT Msg. 765461 of 765507 (This msg. is a reply to 765457 by ravenpeach1.) Jump to msg. # raven, nothing is factual on a message board or chatroom. end of story. My God, wake up...I could have been posting that I have dreaded disease, inside info, and everyone is to blame for cmkx except the real perpetrators.
and throwing stones, you most certainly did, only you sugar coat it in your own inimitable way.
thats my last dear...have a nice life.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 15, 2008 23:29:25 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 15 Sep 2008, 09:28 PM EDT Msg. 765475 of 765539 (This msg. is a reply to 765445 by my69z.) Jump to msg. # my69z,
chris, do you think edwards will pay up?
how about the others?
and urban? is he going to pay up as well?
and what happens to them if they fail to pay the judgement?
and why are all of them not fighting it? why just allow the judge to rule in a summary fashion? why not fight the case in court? it would take years if they fought it, no?
okay, so they are going to accept it. will they pay it all? i hope so. that means that TYLER will have $33m to play with and if urban pays, another $30m to work with.
with all that money i can't imagine TYLER is going to need more cash. what are they going to do with it? i sure hope they decide to get their buttts out of the chair and file for trading.
boy o boy would i like to see this stock come back to life. the long torture would be over.
but there was something about mark faulk's mp3 that bothered me. he didn;t sound like a CEO that was itching to get back to trading. to me he sounded more like a guy getting ready to feather his nest. he sounded like he was preparing to hunker down for the long haul and that bothered me. the TYLER guys seem to have pushed the resumption of trading to the back burner. but i understand. if i were them and had just come across a money machine i'd be worried about keeping it going too. i wouldn't want the party to come to an abrupt end either.
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 16, 2008 5:16:41 GMT -5
By: sparkysantos 15 Sep 2008, 09:32 AM EDT Msg. 34033 of 34037 Jump to msg. # Monday:
Based on over-night trading in Index futures, most market observers, even the Talking Heads on CNBC, agree that US equity markets are about to open down significantly.
But what will happen once the markets open, or perhaps even just before they open, is in Sparky’s opinion impossible to call at this Street-is-still-in-denial juncture.
Besides, remember this: When one analyzes the US-based financials, one must constantly bear in mind that the very best of the worst from this industry now either work for the government (Hank Paulson comes to mind) or manage the hedge funds which so far are successfully shorting the industry’s stocks into the ground.
And with these greed and agenda driven characters calling the near-term shots, particularly always-a-banker Hank Paulson; Sparky would not rule out anything as possible.
Also, we have thoroughly-confused Ban Bernanke at the Fed; and who knows, his confusion might trigger a rate action. Even though the FOMC meeting isn’t until tomorrow (Tuesday), if the US equity markets crash really, really bad – like over 500 points down - Uncle Ben can simply buzz all the Boyz and knock over-night rates down 50 bips. And bingo, just like always, shares of all the US-based financials will stage a brief rally; a rally the hedge funds hors can then short into. Don’t you love it?!
And hey, if the markets resume their upcoming slide, as Sparky suspects they will; why he11 the FOMC could knock over-night rates down an additional 25 to 50 basis points Tuesday.
But if Ben does this, he must know from all the books he’s read and written that the prices of commodities like gold, grains, oil, and the US dollar will reverse their recent corrections and probably even spike to new highs. But hey, the wealth and reputations of the scum that manages these mismanaged firms mean a lot to Ben.
And then there’s always-smiling Christopher Cox; he too could always rig today’s market with another Emergency Order.
In Sparky’s opinion folks, the bottom line is actually quite simple. The US-based financials have been cooking their books for years, and it has finally caught up with them.
Somewhere along the line, the accountants these pigs employ became conditioned to ignore the doctrine of full disclosure and to instead focus on smoke & mirror deception. The net result has been balance sheets that are compiled to conceal, not reveal.
Instead of marking illiquid assets to market, which is conservative and appropriate, these pigs have reclassified assets as Level III, which is smoke & mirrors at its best.
Unfortunately for these insolvent pigs, the hedge funds that are shorting their shorts into the ground are now managed by former peers, peers who received the same training and know cooked books when they see them.
And lastly, when you stop and consider how a popular Martha Stewart went to jail for telling a fib; doesn’t it make you want to puke when you hear these over-paid scum-sucking CEOs telling the world how all is fine, how their companies are adequately capitalized, how they don’t need any additional capital, and how were in the bottom of the ninth inning. Please!!
These lying dirtbags, IMHO, should be stripped of their ill-gotten wealth and thrown in jail. And maybe after the Dow loses a few thousand points, this will happen.
Sparky
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 16, 2008 5:19:05 GMT -5
By: sparkysantos 15 Sep 2008, 04:09 PM EDT Msg. 34042 of 34044 Jump to msg. #
Wachovia Bank (WB) is next - Sparky
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