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Post by soonerlew on Sept 16, 2008 5:27:57 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 16, 2008 5:29:03 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 15 Sep 2008, 11:47 AM EDT Msg. 765295 of 765549 (This msg. is a reply to 765291 by sharasilva.) Jump to msg. # shara, people have been saying the SEC said that we own 622b unregistered shares! even though they were sold into the market and we all bought them the shares never were registered properly and that causes problems.
i don't understand the rules surrounding registered vs unregistered shares, but it seems to me that the SEC should have been able to prevent this kind of activity.
shareholders, like ourselves, can be constantly worried about buying illegal shares in the marketplace! good lord, how do i know what i'm buying if i buy securities through one of the big brokerage houses? shouldn't i assume my hard earned money is going toward an investment in a sound security like CMKX, lehman brothers or enron or fannie mae or bear sterns?!
something should have been done to protect the American investor. if i bought illegal securities then somehow i should be compensated since this crime was allowed under the nose of our federal watch dog, the SEC.
how can i ever feel good about the markets again?
things have really gotten out of hand.
now to be told that the shares in my stock certificate are unregistered or illegal shares is just outrageous! it almost seems like a double crime.
By: oil.ipo 16 Sep 2008, 06:20 AM EDT Msg. 765549 of 765549 (This msg. is a reply to 765295 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosencrantz- This is why we are being labeled as damaged, injured, harmed etc., and any definition that will tie to injured. The SEC is opening the Door a crack, and we all know what is behind that door. The liability is in the restitution. The action to recovery is forthcoming. Thanks to Mr. Maheu. I would think that with the knowledge that Mr. Stoecklein has that he played his part also.
AIMHO,
Oil
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 16, 2008 5:30:40 GMT -5
By: kilroy.killbasher 16 Sep 2008, 01:31 AM EDT Msg. 765544 of 765549 Jump to msg. # What kind of successful investor spends much of his time posting calls for blood from shills on the message board of a long-revoked, subpenny pinkie WHICH THEY ALWAYS KNEW WAS A SCAM AND THUS NEVER VENTURED TO BUY? To you shareholders, if you had never bought CMKX, would you be spending time on this board? (Not unless you're totally insane like me or Jonas, LOL!)
Now, think about the volume and time spent posting attempts to anger and rile you shareholders on this board by VerbaNonFacta, DumboJet, Beav' Cleaver, SharaSilva, and their crew all claiming to be financially disinterested parties. Do you really believe that Greedy Malone, who according to Mkay is just a farmer, is really too busy with his crops this summer (but not last, or the one before) to continue his usual pattern of posting? Do you really think this farmer was on a pro bono mission to dedicate all his spare time to a Scambusters Club?
Inevitably, logical conclusions eventually come into focus through the smoke and mirrors employed by both poles of illegal market players.
\\|// ( o o ) ~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~ KILROY WAS HERE
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 16, 2008 5:32:30 GMT -5
By: kilroy.killbasher 16 Sep 2008, 01:09 AM EDT Msg. 765542 of 765549 (This msg. is a reply to 765541 by factanonverba13.) Jump to msg. # VerbaNonFacta,
You're calling others phony Christians? I can tell from your following excerpt that you're not a pious Christian, or Jew, or Muslim or Buddhist for that matter:
"At some point Urban will go to prison. It is my hope that his shameless gold brick wife, his lazy, worthless children and several of you thieving shills go with him. May you all die, penniless, alone, emotionally shattered and at hard labor. Now THAT would be justice."
Now, that's the Holy Spirit: Vengence! ROFLMAO!
Don't try that, "I'm Hindu, and I was merely referring to Karma... What goes around, comes around, etc." You're clearly making an angry call for blood from people who have done nothing to you personally (you never lost a dime on this, right?). Isn't that strange action for such a spiritual person as yourself? LOL!
\\|// ( o o ) ~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~ KILROY WAS HERE
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 16, 2008 5:33:49 GMT -5
By: aladin99 15 Sep 2008, 11:47 PM EDT Msg. 765539 of 765549 Jump to msg. # hey nuff - Remember this? Why reported such thing when CMKX was trading? This caused me more suspicious about you....I bet your friends did the same thing....How could you said you bought 57M shares after this letter? ///////// From: nufced To: HakalaL@SEC.GOV Subject: CMKX Shares Dear Ms Hakala In July of 2004, I attended the drag races in Denver, CO..and while there was invited to sign a list requested by Mr Casavant, to enter our name and address, which I did, along with quite a few others in attendance.It was deemed a "gift" from the company. Subsequently...I received a stock certificate, in the mail from the TA..First Global. I also have been warned by some that this may have been illegal...altho it came with the word RESTRICTED typed across the face. My question is, am I suppose to register this cert somewhere? Am I supposed to return it to the transfer agent? Was there ANYTHING illegal about it. Thank you for your time Sincerely ///////////////////
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2008 6:29:49 GMT -5
wwjdthrume Global Moderator Re: Naked short-selling blamed/Wall St crisis « Reply #3 Today at 5:00am »
Naked short sellers can collapse the price of a stock, but they can't quickly take away the 'real value' of a company. They can make it difficult to impossible for companies to expand and for companies with huge overhead's or cash outlays, the denial of access to cash has the potential to cause them to close their doors.
Mining and Energy Companies that anticipated this kind of behavior would have an edge - they have 'real value' that can be tapped via their own kinds of swaps (not credit/derivative swaps - but royalty agreements, percentage ownerships for work done, etc.). We know that the NS behavior aimed at CMKX had been used against multiple other companies and that this had the appearance of a sting. That said - I expect they were prepared to outlast and outplay their opponents. Does that phrase ound familiar? It's the slogan for the reality show Survivor. The presence of bashers these last 4 years leads me to think we survived.
Now let us see what the lovely prizes are!!
IMO-Debi
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2008 6:44:14 GMT -5
Posted by: currentplay Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:43:12 AM In reply to: janice shell who wrote msg# 259477 Post # of 259536
Well then what about them being on top of penny scams which is much broader then just INSIDERS.. They continue to let it happen. That in itself is criminal
Posted by: janice shell Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:48:07 AM In reply to: currentplay who wrote msg# 259513 Post # of 259536
In the world of the broader markets, penny stocks don't represent very much money.
That's why.
;D Posted by: currentplay Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:00:31 AM In reply to: janice shell who wrote msg# 259514 Post # of 259536
Your mind set is the same as those who run the system. Whether its a small investor or large investor they work to protect us but they fail miserably in doing just that.. Thanks for your honest reply.
People ARE NOT their own worst enemy. People who regulate the markets and are paid to protect investors fail miserably in doing their job. Its not about just educating its about enforcing rules to minimize Fraud..
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2008 7:01:22 GMT -5
By: bobhwang 16 Sep 2008, 05:06 AM EDT Msg. 34071 of 34071Jump to msg. # rats running: www.dtcc.com/downloads/legal/imp_notices/2008/dtc/ope/3463-08.pdf john3339 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: What might this be?« Reply #2 Today at 6:53am » I'm no rocket scientist....don't play one on TV either! But this appears to be a sanctioned plan for borkers to close out small accounts that are being held on borkers' books, without having to close them out with certificates to the account holders. (and hopefully without charge to the account holders). If everyone got their certs for CMKX and CIM, SGGM, etc, then this should not be a problem. If however, anyone still has shares of revoked pinkies in their accounts, this could be a way for the borkers to liquidate those shares at the last available price per share, and simply send a check to the account holder. (eliminating the naked short position?)For me though, it would permit me to close out my account of securities that have a very small value (too small to sell them and still cover the commissions for the sales), and still get something out of them. My only loss would be for about a thousand ETGMF shares...humph....$40! If this thing is legit, it signals another attempt by the DTC to rid themselves of trillions of naked shorts that remain on the books, for hundreds of securities! (And pay virtually nothing, rather than what a market call would make them pay).And that's my take on it. Anyone else? john
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2008 7:05:32 GMT -5
Oil.Ipo. DIAMOND JEDI Re: New Hope « Reply #7 Today at 6:53am » Topflight,
This game has taken long enough IMHO.
I would set your date on each day that you awaken. If it does not happen on that day then reset for tomorrow. This crime story needs an ending, and not the lies of some Authors, story tellers, web spinners, misinformation artists, do "gooders", rumor passing touters, Paid Handlers, AGENCY Handlers who act as if they know nothing like LT. SCHULTZ from HOGAN'S HERO'S, nor Professionals without a heart who know of what we do.
It is MORE THAN TIME for formal resolution and transparency, restitution payments, and all that has been earned, and justified resulting from the laws that monitor both the crimes, and those who were/are harmed by them.
AIMHO2~ Oil
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2008 7:10:57 GMT -5
ines DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Predicted crash in September.. this poster« Thread Started Today at 12:06am » From: reinhardt - view profile Date: Fri, Jul 18 2008 11:36 am Email: reinhardt <servicec...@bellsouth.net> Rating: (6 users) show options "Crash is in September." yup and the negative news that will move the market downward should occur Sept 15 this organization below.. runs the show www.legatus.org/public/index.asp the money laundering occurs just prior to the pilgrimage to rome and the checks are written during the pilgrimage and the checks clear by September 14 and the negative news leaks out (something along the lines of "insider trading on a mass scale at a major brokerage) then they start crossing the "t"s and dotting the "i"s on Sarbanes-Oxley II SOX II will certainly protect the working class' nest-eggs fur sure! finance.google.com/group/google.f....ad550b590f931bfInteresting poster.. he has quite a few posts ..
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2008 7:17:25 GMT -5
By: ravenpeach1 16 Sep 2008, 07:49 AM EDT Msg. 765551 of 765553Jump to msg. # Evil, MKay, were the people who stole and made companies go bankrupt..... That is the true evil, the market manipulators.... God Bless Ravenpeach By: ravenpeach1 16 Sep 2008, 07:52 AM EDT Msg. 765552 of 765553Jump to msg. # Thousands, suffered alone for many years, when they were left with nothing.... That is corruption.... They are just now being caught and dealt with..... So sad for years that small businesses, companies that were trying to start up and succeed were taken to the cleaners, and there was NO BAIL OUT FOR THEM... EVIL is the term that fits here.... EVIL are those who protected the people who did the EVIL DEEDS taking what belongs to others ILLEGALLY! God Bless and Have a Great Day By: mkaykay0 16 Sep 2008, 08:10 AM EDT Msg. 765553 of 765553(This msg. is a reply to 765551 by ravenpeach1.) Jump to msg. # Yes raven, they are as evil as Urban.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2008 8:13:46 GMT -5
By: ricosull 15 Sep 2008, 11:29 AM EDT Msg. 346715 of 346721Jump to msg. # Sterling, I'm confused, Mark is now the CEO of a company whose charter is ??, shareholders are still in the dark, has a BOD that is incomprehensible, no mining experience whatsoever, can't even confirm possesion of a single claim.....Now I honestly ask you how do you perceive a novelist turning this mess around,because at this stage the only money shareholders will get are damages which is a legal play and again Mark is a bookwriter, Bill is the legal expert....I reiteratemy state of confusion Respectfully, ~Ricosull By: stervc 16 Sep 2008, 08:45 AM EDT Msg. 346720 of 346721(This msg. is a reply to 346715 by ricosull.) Jump to msg. # Ricosull, with Mark... I think it's a little premature to pass any "negative" kind of judgment. At worst, I think people should at least remain neutral to see what unfolds. Mark has a passion for wanting to do the right thing as I know from speaking to him a few times in the past. That's a huge start in the right direction in my opinion. He will have a TEAM of people around him that will be able to contribute to share valuable input too in my opinion. I think we should continue waiting to see what unfolds, especially since we have no choice except to do such. v/r Sterling
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2008 10:42:00 GMT -5
By: aladin99 16 Sep 2008, 09:25 AM EDT Msg. 765560 of 765604 Jump to msg. # prove UC is a real crook? *Why he paid for the pert pull? *Why he paid for the 45M ENT shares? *Why hired Maheu? *Why gave the company to Tyler after being revoked? *SEC listed JE sold 259B shares exact but why SEC did not list all shares sold by UC?
~Why UC has done all above if he knows he is bad guy...why he tried to expose himself and his 33 family members?~
By: stockfred 16 Sep 2008, 09:27 AM EDT Msg. 765561 of 765604 (This msg. is a reply to 765560 by aladin99.) Jump to msg. # aladin...If Urban exposed himself, then he's going to jail!!
"~Why UC has done all above if he knows he is bad guy...why he tried to expose himself and his 33 family members?~"
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2008 10:44:18 GMT -5
By: gotoil1870 16 Sep 2008, 10:58 AM EDT Msg. 765584 of 765606 Jump to msg. # do any of you think that if their was no cmkx you would see all the bank collapses and talk of naked shorting???
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2008 10:45:28 GMT -5
By: mquietstorm3 16 Sep 2008, 11:00 AM EDT Msg. 765586 of 765606 Jump to msg. # What company had the largest cert pull in American History and for what reason?
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