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[soonerlew]

By: hanssolong
20 Dec 2008, 01:28 PM EST
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Quiet board today so what is the ending?Pay, no pay?Jail for them,no jail for them?Sting or no sting?We know for sure the sec was preoccupied maybe even paid to look the other way?Nothing will shock me at this point.

[soonerlew]

By: leowanta
20 Dec 2008, 02:04 PM EST
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Pleasing thoughts hanssolong, t/y for the post!

By: hanssolong
19 Dec 2008, 11:49 PM EST
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4 more days until December 23 bonafides will need security to walk them around.While Jonas,reality bytes,jumbo jet,will be picking up trash on the side of the road in red jumpsuits.

[soonerlew]

By: gusjarvis
20 Dec 2008, 02:38 PM EST
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THE TRUE CMKX NUMBERS, MATH DOESN'T LIE

je certs given to him 589. 7

+

snoops numbers of retired: 16.5 billion
1.8 billion
4.4 billion
9.23 billion
6 billion

+ 75 billion retired from donahue

=

ta da 702.63 the exact issued and outstanding



it is that simply, they gave je enough certs plus the surrendered plus the retired nevada minerals and it is the exact issued and outstanding!


urban and family own the real shares which are under ten billion per kevin!






george burns numbers again my friends! 590 billion
« Thread Started on Dec 17, 2008, 9:59pm »
that is what george said was the naked short of cmkx if you do the reverse math on gemm and ucad divvies. The official end of the ticker was that exact number 590 billion. And remember the records of the fraud were obtained sept 5th o4:

"From December 2002 through September 2004, on approximately 60 separate occasions, 1st Global issued a total of more than 589.7 billion shares of CMKM stock in certificate form without a restrictive legend to the Edwards Entities, Edwards’ nominees, Casavant’s nominees, and others."


the certs were used to cover the naked short and the cert pull forced the cover and ended up at the exact naked short george said and is in this court case!

But they made it look like john edwards dumped the share raises to us, that didn't happen and john edwards didn't sell 590 billion naked shares. Him, tdwaterhouse, etrade, ameritrade, other brokers, other hedge funds did. We know je sold 259 billion, not 590, so why they make it look like he did when we know he didn't. The certs simply were used to cover the short they already knew, it is clear now, and that is why roger isn't in jail.






By: monetaryshift
20 Dec 2008, 02:51 PM EST
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nice post

imagine having proof of a massive nss

i wonder what impact that could have on the global financial corruption?

imagine if there were other 'players' who assisted in evidence gathering

imagine if the system was locked in through new regulations

imagine if all exits were blocked

wonder what that is worth?

[soonerlew]

By: stockrich0
20 Dec 2008, 03:03 PM EST
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Hey GUS...A Kevin West slip-up...



I was re-reading the ol' 'showmethemoney' phone call post (Ines post it on millionaires)
Anyway, Kevin is asked about the OS, he states the obvious of course, that the OS is "800 billion" but then goes on to say, "...that it's not 1.2 trillion like many people think."

And the I think "Whoa!!! Nobody ever says '1.2 trillion!" People most often say there are many trillions of shares (3-6 trillion or more) or, people say that there is 1.5 trillion, the number that matches the CIM distribution.

Now, based on the 589.7 (590) and 622 billion unregistered, look what we have,

1,211,000,000,000 trillion shares

or, 1.2 trillion as Kevin said.



I found a few more gems in that post, but I thought I'd share this one.


Stockrich.

[soonerlew]

By: darlingdaphne
20 Dec 2008, 03:21 PM EST
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gus they issued 800 bill total






By: darlingdaphne
20 Dec 2008, 03:33 PM EST
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but the real question is why were they giving shares away like
drunken sailors and promoting CMKX when they had already issued
the 800 bill.

the answer is because the SEC was letting them issue UNREGISTERED
SHARES

[soonerlew]

By: nigel773
20 Dec 2008, 03:44 PM EST
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gus, SO When is the payout???





By: gusjarvis
20 Dec 2008, 04:03 PM EST
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nigel ARPIL
bud says april for o'quinn, we are with him imo, all are.






By: rosencrantz2010
20 Dec 2008, 04:19 PM EST
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gus, april! so, we've blown right past bhollenegg's 23rd of december and carquest's "if it was a snake it would have bit you" predictions?

if you're saying april gus then you might as well push it to this time next year, but when you do that then you've blown right past mquietstorm's sage advice, "under promise and over deliver." once we go past the half way point in 2009 then we've missed the "under promise" point on 2010.

furthermore, we've also blown past the many gurus that promised the event would coincide with the change in administrations. we also had a number saying the money was being acquired as a result of the downturn in the market. remember, mquietstorm and others saying the DOW had to fall to 8500? remember that, gus?

and then we also have the many others that said the money was collected years ago because that was the only way we got our certs. shorty had to pay upfront inorder to cover the naked short.

well, which one is it folks? did they pay for our certs? or was the money just collected because of the collapse in the market? or is it connected to the new administration? or is it now to be connected to some other legal suit (which i thought people had been saying with certainty that we were leading the way and these other people were too late and the door had closed on them and that we had our money,,, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah?

we're flipping into 2009 in a few weeks and getting awfully close to 2010. "under promise and over deliver." i don't know what that little saying means to you but in business it means something real, and not just bullshiiitt, because you can easily measure the promise against the performance,,, and we're getting might close to the edge with this one once we're into 2009.





By: rosencrantz2010
20 Dec 2008, 04:36 PM EST
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gus, you don't want this dragging on in to april. the longer the worse it gets. the odds are turning against us the longer this takes to get resolved.

it's not good gus if this takes until the middle of 2009.

there are too many flies in the ointment, too many opportunities to not wrap things up. too many chances that something will go wrong.

too many bad things can happen, for example, the person handling our case (some people have to be handling all of this behind the scenes. i hope everyone understands that. i hope everyone understands that we're talking about a formal organization having to work behind the scenes to push the paperwork, to make the formal decisions about what to do and when. and given that that is the way everything gets done in this type of activity, you can easily have the person in charge retire, die, get laid off, get fired, lose their position because of a new administraiton, etc. do you see? a lot had to be done and as such a lot can go wrong the longer this plays out. it's not like someone just calls up the teller at a bank and says, "okay, release all the money." things aren't that simple.

yes, these things take time, but too much time and it starts working against us.

it's called bureaucratic inertia. we're seeing it in action already where cmkx is concerned and i'm afraid if it goes on for too much longer the problem that needs fixing will die as a result. the real problem will pass out of memory and instead be replaced by all the people and customs and habits the organization put in place at first in an effort to fix the problem but then got too busy dealing with the everyday business of getting things working right that the organization never finds the time to do what it set out to do,,, fix cmkx.

in short, speed is important. if bhollenegg and carquest are right we should see significant movement next week.





By: bhollenegg
20 Dec 2008, 07:18 PM EST
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Rosencrantz2010...Please do not post false information. I have never given a date or amount for compensation funds.

Thank you,
BHollenegg

[soonerlew]

By: leowanta
20 Dec 2008, 04:32 PM EST
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bud burrell works for shorty....gus i guess you do too..

we are NOT dealing with O'Quinn, maybe you are, but CMKXERs have nothing to do with Bud Burrell's company or any lawsuits
O'Quinn has filed....

hey, you have a right to all your opinions....thanks for
qualifying your post, as IN YOUR OPINION ...

leowanta

[soonerlew]

By: leowanta
20 Dec 2008, 04:35 PM EST
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relax rose...if cmkxers call it WHITE...gus would say it's BLACK!

ignore him, he knows nothing

leowanta

[soonerlew]

By: monetaryshift
20 Dec 2008, 04:46 PM EST
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april sounds about right...oh and,

leo, you have no clue, be gone now and take your global trust with you

auto/credit/derivs/shift/movie/distribution/future

[soonerlew]

By: gusjarvis
20 Dec 2008, 05:47 PM EST
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we aren't waiting on o'quinn, o'quinn is waiting
on things to settle that are bigger than o'quinn, so we are waiting like o'quinn. We are already settled and so is he, he is waiting until after the g20 countries settle the world finances to announce. That is why they gave the car companies until april as well, everything has to get till then imo, and they barely are.

things will work out by then and o'quinn will announce the worlds' largest class action settlement imo, and we will be paid with the rest of the companies all at the same time.

the court cases with cmkx are all fake except the sealed cases. The revocation was fake, the sec case against us all fake as they worked with us at one point, the entourage case fake, the shore/star case fake, all fake including everything said by mark and kevin today that has to forget the sealed past.

John edwards was taken out years ago and they pretended he wasn't, he sold no real certs but they pretended he did, all certs were tracked and used for the cover of the largest trapped naked short in history per hodges, as you all have your certs.



whatever happens between now and then will be for show imo, but no matter what it is worth putting the pressure on. And if we can sue the sec and dtcc and brokers and out the story then great, even if it is fake!


and I am not posting dates, I am posting what it looks like to me, not based on any acca bullchit, just what it looks like.






By: monetaryshift
20 Dec 2008, 05:55 PM EST
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gus, i agree with your post 98%. everything but the pressure part. it is not necessary. :-)))






By: gusjarvis
20 Dec 2008, 06:12 PM EST
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monetaryshift, the pressure to me is exposure

we will see in the end what is pubic and not, who goes to jail and who doesn't, and what happens to the sec/dtcc/fed/wallsteet. If the truth comes out that the entire fed and market is one giant ponzi scheme, and it is for sure, then justice will be served. Mark cubin said years ago that the market was nothing but a pyramid scheme, he was right.

and china can move on with owning the world sadly enough



Mark Cuban, writing at his blog, confirms that we can model the stock market as if it were a Ponzi scheme.

"I've said a lot of this before.

The stock market is by definition a ponzi scheme.

As long as money keeps on coming in, then there is someone to take the stocks from the sellers. If the amount of money coming in is reduced, the stocks, indexes, et al go down.

What if, for who knows whatever reason, the amount of money going into stocks declined significantly ? Who would buy stock from the sellers.

I mean goodness gracious, you could see something disastrous happen.

Like the Nasdaq dropping from 5000, to under 2000 in just a few years.

Its happened before, it can happen again."

The reason that this is important is that we tend to think that although the stock market may border on irrational, it is not inherently a criminal exercise.

But what if it were? What would it look like? How much differently would it appear to us?

The reason for this type of counter-factual thinking is well understood by scientists, philosophers, and indeed anyone who models the social world: let us assume that world is completely different than we assume it to be, deduce phenomena that would appear in the far away world, and then see just how close we are to the supposed far away counter-factual world.

We are fortunate too have a number of excellent books on Charles Ponzi, his own diary, and years of bubbles to study.

One feature of Charle's Ponzi scheme was his payment to his salesmen. For every $100 scrip they sold, they were immediately paid $10.

Ten dollars was a lot of money. It basically signaled the huge risk involved in taking a long position in Ponzi's SEC.





By: monetaryshift
20 Dec 2008, 06:22 PM EST
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gus, the public is well aware of what is going on, but feel helpless. they need not worry as the real team has everything under control. once the global financials are 'shifted' over to a commmodity backed system it will all be clear to everyone.

thanks for the great post and reply.

and keep an eye on obama's choices....they are very telling

ms

[soonerlew]

By: leowanta
20 Dec 2008, 05:54 PM EST
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you support bud burrell, who works for shorty...

that's all i need to read.

you support bill frizzel who knows nothing about what UC is doing...UC is still in charge of cmkxers and CMKM Diamonds not tyler...you don't seem to get that.

leowanta





By: gusjarvis
20 Dec 2008, 05:56 PM EST
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leo what a joke, I guess mark works for shorty

too then as he was using his good buddy and friend bud to put out this info for us to help us in our fight, what a loser hey, what a fraud these partners are in getting our story out, I can't believe they work for shorty, I must be soooo dumb and work for shorty as well as I just want all the information made public that would prove this fraud:

[soonerlew]

By: monetaryshift
20 Dec 2008, 07:54 PM EST
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its all there for the world to see, if you just look

Former Goldman Sachs official Gensler to be CFTC head

[soonerlew]

By: joesixpack333
20 Dec 2008, 09:02 PM EST
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fm catdaddy on PB29...

With all of the crap that has been going on with our government and some of the proposed programs of the incoming administration reminds me of some wise and somewhat prophetic words:

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."
~Thomas Jefferson~

Looks as if the process is already underway. Later,
Catdaddy

it seems to me that every quote of every founding father is hitting us in the face today... they predicted this event.. the Constitution was directly aimed at what is happening today... they somehow knew that it was going to happen... as George W. Bush said.. the Constitution is just a piece of paper... the same guy that swore an oath to protect it... I wonder what Obama has in store.. scary times people... go WHITE HATS and ALPHA BITS... we need some modern day Elliott Ness types (sp.. seems no two sites get his name right)

[soonerlew]

By: pontiyak
19 Dec 2008, 07:37 PM EST
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I will be voting NO ! on any R/S by ETGMF on their stock....

they are trying to R/S CMKX shareholders out of existance....

Many people may not care about ETGMF, as they have yet to recieve their shares, but ETGMF is one of only 2 companies we have or are entitled to, that is still trading ,and fully compliant.


I DON'T CARE IF I GET ONLY 1 FRIGGIN SHARE...NO R/S !!!!

yak






By: joesixpack333
20 Dec 2008, 08:44 PM EST
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yak... doesn't Urban own the majority of etgmf... seems I read that somewhere before.. it's his company... but I could be wrong..





By: swordfish168
20 Dec 2008, 09:28 PM EST
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joesixpack333

CMKX owns the majority of Entourage.

but we have no voting rights till the shares are given out.

the interesting item is that people are in a panic of a reverse split on Entouage. The point is that there had to be some stipulation in the agreement that the percentage had to be maintained otherwise they would have deluted the stock so that ownership would have fallen into Entouages control.

In other words no matter what happens we still own the company.

just me opinion. best, mike swordfish168@






By: newtopennies
20 Dec 2008, 09:36 PM EST
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SWORD...WITH all due respect, reverse splits have hammered most of my penny positions, so for myself, I guess I'm sick of them in a general sort of way. GLTY eom.




By: swordfish168
20 Dec 2008, 09:43 PM EST
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I agree with what you are saying.

many have been stating that we will lose the Entouage - not so.

I am of the opinion that we will never get the shares of Entouage and that in the end the company will be bought out.

I have said that for along time

This would solve alot of problems - would it not !!

PLEASE USE YOUR IMAGINATION ON THIS IDEA.

if thats the case then it does not matter what the pps is as our payment would be fixed as a percentage of total value against what is paid for the company.

best, mike

[soonerlew]

By: swordfish168
20 Dec 2008, 09:51 PM EST
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newtopennies

After a reverse split - Entourage could move out of pennyland. Then the company could move to a better exchange which would allow for serious investors who may just be interested in the WHOLE package.

I think there are many things going on behind the curtin at this time and I hope it bodes well for us all.

best, mike swordfish168@